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Or dive a little deeper and wonder how our creator came into existence. No doubt he is real and exists but where did he come from?

That seems like a reasonable approach.

When we consider that the Creator created all things, including time, it makes more sense to our finite minds.

What about mountain giants? I saw on the internet a pic of them unearthing a huge skeleton with a skull the size of a car hood. Not sure where it was. A buddy hung a tree stand and pulled the climbing steps.so nobody could use it and he left his safetybelt up there.when he went back it was gone. Something had to be able to reach 18 feet up to take it.

Giants reigned supreme during the days of Noah for over 1K years
They also existed afterwards too

I don't know about giants other than Goliath, but I have been taught, and think it is probably true, that Eden was somewhere between the Tigress and Euphrates Rivers. The where it was is irrelevant, what matters is what happened there.

Kinda my thinking as well. He has only allowed us to be able to comprehend certain things.

I’m trying to word my responses so they don’t sound condescending or disrespectful because that’s not my intent. I feel like the way folks are asked to believe in some of these things “on faith” without question is the same way people come to believe that polygamy is ok or that David Koresh or Jim Jones is the second coming of Jesus, etc……. To think that a full grown naked man just appeared with fully functioning language and writing skills and we’ve kept detailed records of his lineage ever since is just as far fetched to me. Even if a man did just appear there’s no logical way that we kept an accurate historical record of it from that point forward. Did this naked man with no clothes have a pencil and paper to write things down on??......Why does having faith mean we have to throw common sense out the window?? It almost seems like a ploy to get your mind more malleable for believing other things you're told.

Faith is because our minds can’t comprehend the vastness, greatness, all powerful, all knowing and all being, GOD. To a human rational mind it seems irrational, sure. I understand that, but I wouldn’t want to be wrong, and burn in Hell for all eternity either. Try to fathom burning forever, no end, even when the world ends and the sun burns out, still then you’re burning in Hell. Nope.

For what its worth here is my best assessment of what appears to have happened……….

“Man” arose from a process that was put into place…….A process put into place by a higher power…….A process where “life” seems to just suddenly appear and be “created” in the fossil record. A process that is complex and beautiful and miraculous in and of itself……..but one you’ll likely never fully appreciate as being God if you can never get past the idea that man made teachings may not be big enough to explain it all.

As it concerns giants………

I remember someone on here making a comment one time about how the North Koreans radically changed their bodies from South Koreans over the course of like one or two generations due to malnutrition. I think they said they became like 2 or 3 inches shorter on average……If that is true then isnt there also the potential for that process to work in reverse???.....Meaning that if an isolated population of people were exposed to optimal organic nutrition then they would steadily become taller.

I think in the early years of modern man there was much more potential for “tribes” of humans to become isolated in this area or that one and the ones who roamed into these Edenistic type areas where they had access to plentiful fruits, green edibles, and proteins may have altered their population’s body types over time. Maybe there was also something in the water they were drinking.

Giants came into existence not because of nutrition but yes nutrition does play a part in the structure of the human body
The giant’s I’ve studied about almost always had 6 fingers on each hand and 6 toes on each foot
They also almost always had double rows of teeth
This is a direct result of the sons of God mating with human women
It happened before Noah’s flood and after the flood
These beings were vile in every way and never the benevolent creatures portrayed in movies or books
They were and are a perversion of Gods creation made by the fallen ones

Don't overthink it. Whether you believe that God just breathed and poof, men appeared or whether you think that we came about through his intelligent design, it doesn't matter as long as you know that we were created by God.

Just a question to ponder: If you today, had to sit down and tell me your life story...all the big, key moments of factual history you observed plus an oral record of things you knew as true from your parents and grandparents....would you be able to do that? Obviously, yes.

Now consider the Biblical chronologic timeline...just assume it is fairly accurate for this exercise and the dates are roughly correct +/-: Adam (year 0 to year 930) and Methuselah (year 687 to year 1656) knew each other for 200+ years. Methuselah and Noah (year 1056 to year 2006) knew each other for over 500 years at least. Noah's sons (Shem, Ham and Japheth) also knew Methuselah for almost 100 years. [ Flood-Babel-Scattering of Nations. Noah and sons were at Babel. ] Noah (died in year 2006) was in the same area of the world as Abram (name changed to Abraham...year 1948 to year 2143). Isaac, Jacob, Moses, etc... We have word that cities were built, musical instruments were made, pottery existed, mining and making of metal was going on within the 6-10 generations of the dawn of man, after Creation. So did Adam have a tablet in Eden writing it all down? Probably not, LOL! But is there a reason to think that he didn't eventually have that capability and that handed down to Methuselah, Noah, survived post flood, post Babel? If people were building cities, making metal implements, spreading out over the earth..why couldn't writing come early? Plus a God who can create our complex world surely was able to work it out so His story could be recorded for His purposes, right? Not to mention the years of conversations that carried on. There is a reason there is a global Creation story in the oral and written histories in virtually all people groups....obviously many differ in content and accuracy, but the story still exists.

We know from the Bible and other non-biblical historical records that there were written accounts and histories and records before Moses (the presumed by many, argued not by others) wrote the first 5 books of the Bible, the Pentateuch. Don't forget that the Lord and Moses spoke.

Not arguing....just trying to offer some other things to think on that may help in understanding what was possible if not probable.

Tell me about the life of your great, great, great grandmother on your dad's side of the family.

I've always wondered where Cain and Abel's wives came from.

Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel ... and then the sons were married, and after the slaying more sons and women came to be as the population grew.

Where did the women come from after the first four?

they married their sisters

That's probably why some of them had 6 toes and two rows of teeth too........

Can you post pictures?

No other explanation than they married their sisters
Adam and Eve had many more children after the birth of Seth

There is only two ways to look at the Bible and that is either it is 100% the Word of God or it isn’t
Which is it