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Youngest son is graduating high school and wants to go into the Air Force. Supposed to talk with a recruiter next week. Any advice would be appreciated.
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My now 20 year old daughter went AF, Air Guard, and absolutely loves it. He'll be in Texas for about six months. Best I can do, sorry
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I'm sure that a lot of things have changed since I was in the USAF (85-95).
I'm assuming he wants to do active duty? It appears based on what I have been reading that all branches of the military are falling short of their recruiting goals - so, he should be in a good position to be more selective on the job he will get.
Many people that I have talked with in the past didn't trust the recruiters; however, I would suggest they are there to guide the recruit to a job that is suitable for knowledge and/or skill level. I can't think of a single job in the USAF that is not transferable to the private sector. If there was one piece of advice that I SHOULD HAVE listed to while in the USAF (vs. waiting till I got out) would have been to pursue the higher educational opportunities available while enlisted.
"The struggle you're in today, is developing the strength you need for tomorrow."
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I retired from the USAF in 2006, but I don't know what current conditions are. I recommend knowing what career field your son is interested in and go for that. Don't let them sway you from it with a flashy video to get him to sign-up for hard-to-fill positions. There's a reason they are hard to fill. I wanted to work on aircraft and I stuck with it. No regrets.
Nathan Carl Goff 19 Sept 2016 - 14 Jan 2017.
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I work with a bunch of retired Air Force guys. All good folks that loved their time in. We're all Fuel guys, so if your Son needs any advice from me, the Fuel side is a great way to go. Plenty of job opportunities when he gets out.
Life is a journey. Make sure and bring plenty of Beer.
My luck has been so bad lately, it could be raining pussies and I'd catch one with a dick broke off in it.
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My Son entered at age 22 with 2 years of Junior College under his belt. He will be 37 in August. He completed his education while in. Ended up going to Officers Training School in Montgomery after a few years in...(Which He strongly recommends as it puts you in a higher Bracket). He's a Drone Pilot. Has been stationed in Las Vegas,NV. and Alamogordo, NM. They are moving next month to Sumpter, S.C. which will put them only 5.5 hours away!! Now We can catch up on time together!!
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Thats awesome Buckwheat...  I know your very proud of him I'm sure....
Did you know that Beer Nutz are over a Dollar...and Deer Nutz are under a Buck...
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My son did 20 years USAF in aircraft maintenance. During the whole last 20 years of US involvement in bad places he spent four years in South Carolina, four years in Italy, four years in Hawaii, three years in new Mexico, then had several short tours to Germany and the Middle East. Outstanding career. Active duty USAF or the Air national Guard would be the only branch of the military I'd recommend.
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Youngest son is graduating high school and wants to go into the Air Force. Supposed to talk with a recruiter next week. Any advice would be appreciated. Is your son qualified per his grades and or azfab??? test scores to go to their OCS....officer candidate school? what they called it in the 80's...lol Definitely, I would recommend getting his wings if at all possible....I think the govt benefits and holidays and pension plan would appeal to any young person today....I wish him well if he gets in....What was his reasoning for wanting to join the AF...?
Did you know that Beer Nutz are over a Dollar...and Deer Nutz are under a Buck...
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Push him towards the Coast Guard. Loved my time in. 
Last edited by quailman; 05/10/23 05:47 PM.
Life is a journey. Make sure and bring plenty of Beer.
My luck has been so bad lately, it could be raining pussies and I'd catch one with a dick broke off in it.
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I got a couple 3 buddies that did 3yrs in and then 20 more in the guard afterwards and they all make out like bandits with the all benefits they get, got one that even sent his step-kids to college by transferring his part of his GI Bill package....  He could always do 3 or 4 in and bail out....I got 1 buddy that went to WestPoint and graduated with honors in engineering, afterwards he went to jump school I believe it was in Ft Hood Texas maybe? Had him a motorcycle for transportation while he was doing all that....  ....He up and quit (Shocked me I thought he would do 20yrs at least cause he was already a Capt, and due up for Major and making bank) and went to work for Clairol hair products... He's retired now from Clairol and lives in grand Rapids Mi...
Did you know that Beer Nutz are over a Dollar...and Deer Nutz are under a Buck...
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Push him towards the Coast Guard. Loved my time in. All good......if You don't mind sleeping like a Sardine in the Bunk Area.....
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Yes sir, absolutely pick a MOS/job that’ll transfer to civilian life, not just what sounds cool.
Everything woke turns to shucks
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As a former Marine, I would recommend:
1. Space Force, Air Force, Coast Guard. In that order.
2. The young person needs to have a REALLY GOOD IDEA of what they would like to do for a career either in the military or in civilian life before they sign any papers.
"When I say ever thing I mean ever thing." - Frankie
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My now 20 year old daughter went AF, Air Guard, and absolutely loves it. He'll be in Texas for about six months. Best I can do, sorry Shame she was bullied and forced into taking the Jab. My Niece and Nephew came out purty damn good in the long run on that deal after being Threatened. Shame we lost a lot of good Airmen & Soldiers because of that BS.....
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As a former Marine, I would recommend:
1. Space Force, Air Force, Coast Guard. In that order.
2. The young person needs to have a REALLY GOOD IDEA of what they would like to do for a career either in the military or in civilian life before they sign any papers.
As a former soldier, I agree with this post.
Proud Army and ALNG veteran
God Bless America!
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As a former Marine, I would recommend:
1. Space Force, Air Force, Coast Guard. In that order.
2. The young person needs to have a REALLY GOOD IDEA of what they would like to do for a career either in the military or in civilian life before they sign any papers.
I think it depends on your job. Our CG aviation guys work every component on the aircraft with inly 2 ratings. AF guys are typically stuck working specific components. I know nothing about space force. AF definitely has the upper hand with of duty things to do
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As a former Marine, I would recommend:
1. Space Force, Air Force, Coast Guard. In that order.
2. The young person needs to have a REALLY GOOD IDEA of what they would like to do for a career either in the military or in civilian life before they sign any papers.
I think it depends on your job. Our CG aviation guys work every component on the aircraft with inly 2 ratings. AF guys are typically stuck working specific components. I know nothing about space force. AF definitely has the upper hand with of duty things to do I worked aircraft hydraulics and we were considered specialists. But in the 90's when manning levels dropped, and the job had to get done, maintenance folks became more consolidated into Manx Units. If the hydraulics were good, you would then help other specialists or crew chiefs. Then you would get cross-utilization training (CUT) with many other tasks. You can learn ALOT and it will only make you better. That wide band of knowledge will make you some $$$ when you get out.
Nathan Carl Goff 19 Sept 2016 - 14 Jan 2017.
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Highly recommend it. 87-90 963rd AWACS @ Tinker AFB in OKC. Got to see some places I’d have never visited otherwise, watched the SR-71 take off at Mildenhall in England and OKC, passed aircrew survival training and crossed over the North Pole. Met some damn good people.
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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As a former Marine, I would recommend:
1. Space Force, Air Force, Coast Guard. In that order.
2. The young person needs to have a REALLY GOOD IDEA of what they would like to do for a career either in the military or in civilian life before they sign any papers.
I think it depends on your job. Our CG aviation guys work every component on the aircraft with inly 2 ratings. AF guys are typically stuck working specific components. I know nothing about space force. AF definitely has the upper hand with of duty things to do I worked aircraft hydraulics and we were considered specialists. But in the 90's when manning levels dropped, and the job had to get done, maintenance folks became more consolidated into Manx Units. If the hydraulics were good, you would then help other specialists or crew chiefs. Then you would get cross-utilization training (CUT) with many other tasks. You can learn ALOT and it will only make you better. That wide band of knowledge will make you some $$$ when you get out. Right, that's what I was talking about. There's a difference in how the maintenance is done between the 2 services. Our AMTs did/do all of the maintenance on their aircraft and any of it's components including all heavy maintenance and our AETs do all electrical/avionics. They aviators are also filling all of the crew positions in flight. Our swimmers do aviation life support equipment and flight gear. A lot of them are at Army bases now doing the same job as civilians. I have a lot of ex AF buddies, for me the AF and the CG are my top two choices.
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