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I cannot believe for the life of me that there are still people of reasonable intelligence who believe the election wasn't stolen from him. After all the evidence and cover ups. After the false imprisonments on made up charges and hidden evidence. And even so called Republicans still think he lost. Greatest scam in American history.

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I am hearing that some don't want Trump to run because the Democrats hate him and will keep attacking him. Is that how you really think? Let the Democrats dictate who you will support?

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Originally Posted by deadeye48
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Theyll simply start lying like they have about Trump and they will continue to repeat it until its widely believed


And that is EXACTLY why he WILL NOT win another one. Notice I didn't say can not, he definitely could if the MSM didn't exist as it does today. Too damn many pansy ass fence sitters in the US today that believe everything they hear and get their damn feelings hurt. The 2020 election was proof of two things: the demoncraps will cheat to any level necessary and the pansy ass middle class, middle ground fence sitters would rather vote for the garbage we have now and endure a shitty economy than have their poor wittle feelings hurt over something someone said. Or worse supposedly said.

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Originally Posted by kodiak06
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Give the democraps four years, theyll convince you what a douche bag Desantis is as well. Its like yall have never played this game before.


This. It blows my mind that all of a sudden no one thinks Trump can win. Its like they all been listening to Rachael Maddow for years.


It's not "all of the sudden" lol. I thought he'd lose when he did lose. It's having an open mind and not wearing blinders. Travel the Country weeks leading up to the election and it's easy to see how things are shaping up. He catered to all of us that already supported him and failed to go after swing votes. Pretty simple...


He gor more black votes than any republican, got more hispanic vote than any republican ever, he got more votes than any person in history ever

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Originally Posted by jwalker77
I cannot believe for the life of me that there are still people of reasonable intelligence who believe the election wasn't stolen from him. After all the evidence and cover ups. After the false imprisonments on made up charges and hidden evidence. And even so called Republicans still think he lost. Greatest scam in American history.



That is proof that no matter how much we complain about the media and the Democrats, their BS propaganda campaign has worked. Not only do they have people believing that clown won, (even though he hardy campaigned) they have people believing he won by the largest vote count in history. The power of Persuasion!!!

Now they’re cracking the voter base that got Trump elected. The Republicans, Independents, conservative can complain all day about having the election stolen. But the idiocy of the entire situation, is the Republican power base does nothing but talk. McConnell and the Washington republicans are nothing but a limp noodle,


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Originally Posted by just_an_illusion
Originally Posted by deadeye48
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Theyll simply start lying like they have about Trump and they will continue to repeat it until its widely believed


And that is EXACTLY why he WILL NOT win another one. Notice I didn't say can not, he definitely could if the MSM didn't exist as it does today. Too damn many pansy ass fence sitters in the US today that believe everything they hear and get their damn feelings hurt. The 2020 election was proof of two things: the demoncraps will cheat to any level necessary and the pansy ass middle class, middle ground fence sitters would rather vote for the garbage we have now and endure a shitty economy than have their poor wittle feelings hurt over something someone said. Or worse supposedly said.


With all the evidence that has come to light proving they were lying about Trump and that He was being truthful this ploy won’t work as well
Yes I’m certain there are those diehard want to believers that will fall for anything
The thing is that DeSantis has not been put in the national spotlight yet like in a presidential race and it’s questionable whether or not he will run
The few times he was in the spotlight they were trying to devour him
I’m not sold on DeSantis simply because his relationship with John Bolton …..think “military industrial complex”


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If I were the democrats I would arrest him..........
It will divide the GOP and votes. Trump will attack all of the Rinos that don't speak out for him. Any potential presidential candidate that doesn't fight for Trump will lose ~75% of the votes.
Liberal voters will love it and it will drive up their TDS and hatred for anyone that opposes arresting him.

It is a win/win for democrats.


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Here is what we actually know.....

1) He's not going to let DeSantis win 2024 by a landslide. That's been established. Instead some combination of everything posted thus far is going down. Buckle up it's going to be a total dumpster fire.

2) And he is not trying to lead the Republican party he's only appealing to his entrenched supporters. He did not support his candidates monetarily on the 2022 mid-terms and that told me all I needed to know.

Republicans are liable to lose in 2024 due to TRUMP.

That's what we know for sure.




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Originally Posted by jwalker77
I cannot believe for the life of me that there are still people of reasonable intelligence who believe the election wasn't stolen from him. After all the evidence and cover ups. After the false imprisonments on made up charges and hidden evidence. And even so called Republicans still think he lost. Greatest scam in American history.

Yup. Treason


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Originally Posted by Ben2
Originally Posted by kodiak06
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Give the democraps four years, theyll convince you what a douche bag Desantis is as well. Its like yall have never played this game before.


This. It blows my mind that all of a sudden no one thinks Trump can win. Its like they all been listening to Rachael Maddow for years.


It's not "all of the sudden" lol. I thought he'd lose when he did lose. It's having an open mind and not wearing blinders. Travel the Country weeks leading up to the election and it's easy to see how things are shaping up. He catered to all of us that already supported him and failed to go after swing votes. Pretty simple...


He gor more black votes than any republican, got more hispanic vote than any republican ever, he got more votes than any person in history ever


I know exactly what votes he got, we all do. The point is, they hate Trump and there's no way he wins. That writings been on the wall for months. Instead of trying to do come out and swing some votes, he came out with personal attacks on those
that may run against him, including Desantis. If you look at the large Blue Cities, he's done nothing to try to turn the voters his way.

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Goat, there not liable to lose it is a guarantee. It doesn't matter who republicans run there never going to wine another national election. The dem controlled big cities in 5 states will always find just enough mailing ballots. The fix is in. There is nothing republicans can do. They stole all the so called swing states in 20 repeated in 22 midterms. It's been perfected now. Game over

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Originally Posted by jwalker77
I cannot believe for the life of me that there are still people of reasonable intelligence who believe the election wasn't stolen from him. After all the evidence and cover ups. After the false imprisonments on made up charges and hidden evidence. And even so called Republicans still think he lost. Greatest scam in American history.


I'm not sure if that was pointed at me but, it popped up right after a post I made so, I'll take a shot lol.
First of all, he did lose, or he'd be president. That has nothing to do with my belief that the election was or was not stolen.
We all know how that went down but, we had no control over it and we're now on the outside looking in. Unless Trump or
another republican pokes their head into the large Blue Cities and turns some votes, we're in trouble again. The issue is they HATE Trump and will
never flip to his side. Most know I'm in Oregon. Our recent Governor race finally had a Republican in the mix and a damn 21yr ex-Dem ran as an independent. Long story short, the Republican
was within 5% of winning but, the independent pulled thousands of gun right/farmer BS votes and swung enough votes that it killed her chances.

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Originally Posted by Ben2
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Give the democraps four years, theyll convince you what a douche bag Desantis is as well. Its like yall have never played this game before.


This. It blows my mind that all of a sudden no one thinks Trump can win. Its like they all been listening to Rachael Maddow for years.


It's not "all of the sudden" lol. I thought he'd lose when he did lose. It's having an open mind and not wearing blinders. Travel the Country weeks leading up to the election and it's easy to see how things are shaping up. He catered to all of us that already supported him and failed to go after swing votes. Pretty simple...


He gor more black votes than any republican, got more hispanic vote than any republican ever, he got more votes than any person in history ever


You can win the battle and still lose the war and that's where Trump is. With a fair press, no mail-in ballot cheating, and a fair election, Trump wins hands down. But we have none of those, and that is the reason that Trump does not need to run again. They stole it once and they will most certainly steal it again. Trump might "win" the "legal/legitimate" vote but he will never be allowed to be president again. If control is to be wrestled from the hands of the democrats, it will have to be done by someone that can appeal to the independents, women, minorities, and manage to siphon off some moderate democrats. The victory has to be so massive that it cannot be overcome with a few suitcases of mail-in ballots. Trump has already proven that he cannot do it. He's simply hated by too many. Biden did not even run a campaign. Trump lost the presidency (not necessarily the election), because 50% of America absolutely despises him, and that enabled the dems to steal it, with just a moderate amount of cheating in 4 or 5 specific swing states. Whomever the Republican nominee is, it has to be someone that can pull big numbers from all demographics and not just the diehards. Unfortunately, it's simply the inconvenient truth of where things are. Either we find someone other than Trump that is not an unpolished, bombastic, egomaniac, that not even all Republicans are willing to back, or we can look forward to a Democrat sitting the presidential office for the next 6yrs. Trump did a great job, and the majority of his policies were great for America, but that is no longer what it takes to win elections now that the rules of the game have changed. Lastly, you have to actually win the presidency, and the house, and senate, in order to be able to right the wrongs, clean up the 3 letter agencies, and change the election laws back, so that elections are fair and impartial. The longer the democrats maintain control of 2 of the 3 branches, the harder it becomes. Now is the time, if it is ever going to happen, and my personal opinion is that if Trump runs, and we miss this opportunity, it will be gone forever.

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They don't count the votes so we have to go after more votes??????I absolutely do not understand that reasoning. The only reason Trump might benefit from going after the inner city folks is because when they get screwed over, they burn down buildings and hurt people. That would get some results. Thinking any number of votes will change the results of an election when they have proven the numbers are just made up is a little looney.

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Jwalker, you are 100%correct. There are so many that think it matters who runs with a R by there name

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Originally Posted by jwalker77
They don't count the votes so we have to go after more votes??????I absolutely do not understand that reasoning. The only reason Trump might benefit from going after the inner city folks is because when they get screwed over, they burn down buildings and hurt people. That would get some results. Thinking any number of votes will change the results of an election when they have proven the numbers are just made up is a little looney.


LMAO, so sit back and do nothing but complain on Aldeer's a better solution than trying to gain votes and support? lol, that seems a "little looney"

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So, explain yourself then. You say he definitely won the election, which means he got more votes than Biden, if I understand how elections work. Then you said to win he needs to get more votes. Then LMAO. Well quit laughing your a☆☆ off and explain how any of what you said makes any sense. I don't think it's a laughing matter. How does he win by getting more votes? That is what you said, he needs to get more of the inner city votes.....How does that help him win?

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Originally Posted by jwalker77
I cannot believe for the life of me that there are still people of reasonable intelligence who believe the election wasn't stolen from him. After all the evidence and cover ups. After the false imprisonments on made up charges and hidden evidence. And even so called Republicans still think he lost. Greatest scam in American history.



Me either. And yes it was the greatest scam ever.


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Originally Posted by Ben2
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Give the democraps four years, theyll convince you what a douche bag Desantis is as well. Its like yall have never played this game before.


This. It blows my mind that all of a sudden no one thinks Trump can win. Its like they all been listening to Rachael Maddow for years.


It's not "all of the sudden" lol. I thought he'd lose when he did lose. It's having an open mind and not wearing blinders. Travel the Country weeks leading up to the election and it's easy to see how things are shaping up. He catered to all of us that already supported him and failed to go after swing votes. Pretty simple...


He gor more black votes than any republican, got more hispanic vote than any republican ever, he got more votes than any person in history ever



Yes he did. But some people are still believing that Mr. Potato head got 30 million more votes than the black Jesus did. The messiah of the democrats.


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Biden didn't have votes they have him D ballots prefilled out


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