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Joined: Jan 2010
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My 14 ford escape had a pretty bad shudder between 30 and 50 mph. Have y’all had any luck just changing the fluid to help it or should I just rebuild it? I’ve seen a lot of videos where just changing fluid stops it. 142k miles on it.
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I have no experience with this but if those are your two options. I would try the cheaper first. Change the fluid and see what happens. The worst is having to replace which you already said was option 2.
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Booner
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Booner
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Do not change the fluid. A tube of shudder stop from the auto parts is the most simple and cheapest as a first option.
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Freak of Nature
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A bottle of Ford limited slip additive will fix it if it can be fixed with an additive.
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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Second the shudder stop. It’s about $9 a tube
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If you do a complete flush. With an actual flushing machine. It changes the fluid completely. This will definitely help
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I have a 2017 with about 115k miles and it started doing the same shutter. Changed the fluid and it’s made a big difference. Not perfect but definitely better than it was.
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Freak of Nature
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I've had two different certified Toyota / Lexus mechanics talk against a flush on high milage vehicles that are showing a problem. They said it's rolling the dice. Sometimes it helps , sometimes it won't make it 10 miles after doing it.
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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I jad my 17 rebuilt lasted a year and the shutter came back, put the shutter fluid in it and worked great for 3 months shutter is back, and been shuttering since last october and i drive it all over the state and pissed off the whole time
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I have read that a fluid & filter change is better than a flush. When they flush they don't necessarily change the filter. The flush is easier for them and they charge more.
"When I say ever thing I mean ever thing." - Frankie
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Might try some friction modifier from the Ford place. It worked in my last F150 I had.
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Freak of Nature
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I have read that a fluid & filter change is better than a flush. When they flush they don't necessarily change the filter. The flush is easier for them and they charge more. Fluid only or fluid and filter change , but no flush on a high mileage with issues. Least that's what I've been told by people I trust.
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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I drive a 2017 f150 with 266k+ miles. It has the shudder but it's a enterprise fleet company vehicle. I just put up with the shudder. It would bother me if it was a personal vehicle and I would try the shudder fix additive.
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Might try some friction modifier from the Ford place. It worked in my last F150 I had. Motorcraft (Ford) XL-3 Limited Slip Friction Modifier . I would imagine Spicer's limited slip additive would work well also. All I've ever used was Ford though.
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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Might try some friction modifier from the Ford place. It worked in my last F150 I had. Motorcraft (Ford) XL-3 Limited Slip Friction Modifier . I would imagine Spicer's limited slip additive would work well also. All I've ever used was Ford though. Yeah, that’s some good stuff
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I have read that a fluid & filter change is better than a flush. When they flush they don't necessarily change the filter. The flush is easier for them and they charge more. Fluid only or fluid and filter change , but no flush on a high mileage with issues. Least that's what I've been told by people I trust. Whats the difference between a fluid change and a flush?
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Booner
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I have read that a fluid & filter change is better than a flush. When they flush they don't necessarily change the filter. The flush is easier for them and they charge more. Fluid only or fluid and filter change , but no flush on a high mileage with issues. Least that's what I've been told by people I trust. Whats the difference between a fluid change and a flush? Filter change doesn’t get fluid out of most torque converters.
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Freak of Nature
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I have read that a fluid & filter change is better than a flush. When they flush they don't necessarily change the filter. The flush is easier for them and they charge more. Fluid only or fluid and filter change , but no flush on a high mileage with issues. Least that's what I've been told by people I trust. Whats the difference between a fluid change and a flush? Flush hooks into the trans cooler lines and pumps out old fluid and in with new. It changes all fluid . Just a standard drain and re-fill normally doesn't get the fluid in the torque converter. The problems it can cause as I understand it is there's some pressure involved and it can dislodge particles and such and they may clog holes and ports. Midas shops which performs trans flushing states ' an already compromised transmission should not be flushed.'
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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The last time I thought I had a shudder it was a bad coil pack.
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