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Joined: Nov 2011
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12 point
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If you kill a deer with small antlers there’s no shame in it. No one has to justify it by saying it’s mature or big bodied. As long as you eat.
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Last rack deer I killed was a 3 year old . I just had to know what that 357mag rifle would do on a bigger deer. Lol
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One of the reasons we don’t have any age structure is because we have the philosophy that any buck that reaches 4 or 5 years old needs to die……We say that these need to die because they’re culls and these need to die because they’re trophies and the end result is that they ALL die and there’s very little true age structure…….6,7,8 year old bucks are different creatures and create different dynamics when present The place I hunt has a good many 7-8 year old bucks. Most of them die from old age. Here’s one from this year. He never had more than 125” of antler and he’s headed downhill. He will probably make it one more year and will have 2 inch tines next year. They don’t all grow big racks when they get older. A few do. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/52xLH9RR/7186-C20-D-3635-4-AD0-92-D5-489-BCEFB3021.png)
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That one looks mature. Op buck doesn’t look that old yet, I’d shoot him if I wanted some meat though.
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Dances With Weeds
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The place I hunt has a good many 7-8 year old bucks. Most of them die from
old age. Here’s one from this year. He never had more than 125” of antler
and he’s headed downhill. He will probably make it one
more year and will have 2 inch tines next year.
They don’t all grow big racks when they get older.
A few do.
Check out the dude on the far left........ ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/w293EYy.jpg)
Folks that know don't shoot old does........ 
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CNC ,, are them Alabama deer
Don't look like old deer to me just fat deer
Last edited by Frankie; 12/31/22 12:42 PM.
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Dances With Weeds
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CNC ,, are them Alabama deer Yes
Folks that know don't shoot old does........
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Why is the does just as big
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I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one…….
Folks that know don't shoot old does........
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Old Mossy Horns
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Maybe my eyes , the slick head close to the upper middle look like a yearling far right older doe
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Ive got several that look just like the OP’s deer. Every time i see one I come up with 50 excuses not to shoot it.
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Maybe my eyes , the slick head close to the upper middle look like a yearling far right older doe Here's a closer cropped pic...... I saw this buck the following year as well. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/DzieJV0.jpg)
Folks that know don't shoot old does........
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I'll say this too Frankie.......that pic is the only time I ever saw him during daylight out in the open. The following year I saw him in my backyard at night during the rut. His rack didnt change a whole lot....It was just like two main beams with no tines
Last edited by CNC; 12/31/22 01:34 PM.
Folks that know don't shoot old does........
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Beer gut…tag approved…advance on target.
Boom 
You gonna pull them pistols, or whistle Dixie?
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8 point
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Shooting deer based on antler size will ruin genetics in the long run. Think about it... studs are killed at 2 or 3, while the retards live to be 7 or 8. Which group is contributing more to the gene pool? This has been demostrated on hunting reserves in Africa. I've read studies on this in the past, but all I could find after a quick google search was this publication hidden behind a paywall. You can still read the abstract though. https://zslpublications.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/acv.12043
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I can drive 30 min and show you the effects of high grading on WMAs. It’s way more prevalent than you think.
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