I bought a 14ft a year and half ago for $6k brand new from a guy in Huntsville who builds them. Cheapest price i got, by far. Its ok but the welding sucked. My uncle is an old fab/welding guy. He has fixed and rewelded several things on it. Its a pretty good dump trailer now. I am pretty rough on it. Just the fact that its still rolling down the road is a miracle with me working with it every day. Nothing my uncle welded has broke again. They could have spent another $100 on material and a few more hours on welding and it would have been a pretty good dump trailer