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Ya know Jawbone, if its really a good site you don't have to wait. All it takes is a shovel and a screen. What I find though is few people want artifacts bad enough to dig. Its lots of fun but its lots of hours of hard dirty work, often with little return. Until you hear that "CLINCK" and it all can get good fast.. You may know generally where they were but there is no way to know specifically where except by moving unproductive dirt and crossing it off 81 SF at the time. It generally took me 5-6 hours to dig and screen a 4" x 4" hole 4-foot deep, then shave out sidewalls with a trowel until the top collapses and fill and level the hole. Over the years I have taken a few of my my creek/field hunting buddies and lets just say my phone was not ringing off the hook with them begging to come.
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You bunch of grave robbers...
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Can't tell if that's sarcasm, but if it isn't you just earned a spot on the Aldeer's Most Stoopid list. Your first comment on the thread pretty much proved you don't have much knowledge about the topic of conversation here. When I actively hunted I knew a lot of folks and not one of them would have ever touched a burial, not that it does not happen sometimes by accident. You cannot put a shovel, backhoe or dozer in the ground without the possibility of disturbing a grave from some time frame. In all the years I dug, and all the people I knew who dug, only two found evidence of a burial and immediately covered up and moved. And in both cases these were just typical village sites, no mounds or any other indication of burials.
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Freak of Nature
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Very nice find. The only way you’re going to find something like that is digging. the two I have found are both surface finds....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Ya know Jawbone, if its really a good site you don't have to wait. All it takes is a shovel and a screen. What I find though is few people want artifacts bad enough to dig. Its lots of fun but its lots of hours of hard dirty work, often with little return. Until you hear that "CLINCK" and it all can get good fast.. You may know generally where they were but there is no way to know specifically where except by moving unproductive dirt and crossing it off 81 SF at the time. It generally took me 5-6 hours to dig and screen a 4" x 4" hole 4-foot deep, then shave out sidewalls with a trowel until the top collapses and fill and level the hole. Over the years I have taken a few of my my creek/field hunting buddies and lets just say my phone was not ringing off the hook with them begging to come. I'm not a digger. I am not motivated enough (too lazy) for that when I can find plenty behind a plow and some rain and my spot is special and might someday be of major archaeological significance. I don't want to possibly mess that up when I'm not going to detail everything like proper digging requires. It won't be too many more years for a dozer to do the unearthing for me. The pines are getting pretty tall in that spot.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Poppa Jon
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we should start an artifacts page. That would be pretty cool
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Can't tell if that's sarcasm, but if it isn't you just earned a spot on the Aldeer's Most Stoopid list. Your first comment on the thread pretty much proved you don't have much knowledge about the topic of conversation here. When I actively hunted I knew a lot of folks and not one of them would have ever touched a burial, not that it does not happen sometimes by accident. You cannot put a shovel, backhoe or dozer in the ground without the possibility of disturbing a grave from some time frame. In all the years I dug, and all the people I knew who dug, only two found evidence of a burial and immediately covered up and moved. And in both cases these were just typical village sites, no mounds or any other indication of burials. Just kidding about the grave robbers... I’ve got several halves that were surface finds. I have dug graves and she’ll mounds with AU and USA Archaeologist.
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for the record I took it as joking....
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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we should start an artifacts page. That would be pretty cool X2...
Did you know that Beer Nutz are over a Dollar...and Deer Nutz are under a Buck...
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This was the last frame I put together toward the end of my active grave robbing days LOL Mix of SE Bama creek finds and Florida dug points. . ![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/Rh4gr9gS/pic.jpg) The only digging I have done in quite a few years is on my own place in Bama. I have one small, multi-cultural, probably temporary camp, and a large multi-cultural site in my big field. There have been many many hundreds of artifacts from Woodland to early Archaic found in the big field. You hear the stories about cigar boxes of points and grinding stone lined flower beds, but I remember it as a child visiting. I asked my Uncle about what happened to all of it and he said a guy showed up one day wanting to buy artifacts and they sold him pretty much the whole kit and kabooble for like a nickel for the good whole ones. Which was dam good money for a S Bama dirt farmer/loggers family at the time. I put it in pasture 20 years ago to preserve what's left because every time it got turned foot prints magically appeared. If things work out like I hope I will be living up there permanently in a year, and one of the first things I will be doing is building a trailer mounted mechanical sifter, acquiring a mini-excavator and digging up every inch of about 8 acres. Sometime in the early 1900's the field was terraced with soil pushed up hill from the creek and there is no telling what is under it, unexposed to surface hunting. I lived on the farm for one year after college and for the only time in my life was there after it was bottom plowed. This frame all came from that one field that one spring. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/YSyk8rzW/Picture1.png)
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I have something i don t know what it is. Its a round smooth rock bout 2”thick. 10” long an 8” wide . Got a divet in middle . Also got the other rock that fits perfectly in divet just right size to fit in hand . Looks to have place for each finger ground into sides of it . Bout 4 “ long bigger on bottom. I was told the indians use this to mash corn into meal. I found it in field next to river where i found other artifacts.is this possible? I don t have pic of it
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BradB Can I be your friend???
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I have something i don t know what it is. Its a round smooth rock bout 2”thick. 10” long an 8” wide . Got a divet in middle . Also got the other rock that fits perfectly in divet just right size to fit in hand . Looks to have place for each finger ground into sides of it . Bout 4 “ long bigger on bottom. I was told the indians use this to mash corn into meal. I found it in field next to river where i found other artifacts.is this possible? I don t have pic of it Sounds like a Mano and Metate, which is fancy for Mortar and Pestle.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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I looked up mano . That’s exactly what it is . Thanks jawbone. Ive had that for 40 years. Both pieces laying by mom front door. Guess i need put it up somewhere
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I could contribute lots of artifact pics . Most of my stuff is mid archaic, but also have a really nice gorget i found it n the surface of a plowed field
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"I'm not near as critical about how big they are as I once was. Smiles are more important now! We will grow more deer." Jimmy G.
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Just realized that guy is in Illinois. Different world artifact wise. Size and quality varies a lot depending on material availability. Most of the rock, both chert and coral, used here in the Orlando area had to get toted or paddled 40-60 miles from either Ocala/Gainesville to north or west and south along the West Coast down to a Tampa. Those guys have it made because larger better quality points were much easier to find. Around here they tend to be smaller and exhausted from resharpening because material to replace them was much harder to get
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Hey Outdoors good to hear from ya. Outdoors and I had the pleasure of both getting an invite to a killer site in Cuthbert Georgia. Probably best I have ever been on. I went 3 times I think and found the choc swrl top right, the scaper next to it, the pinkish point below and left of it, left and right facing points in center, the Waller, and all three point in top left corner. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/nhGS8Vxh/Screenshot-2022-04-29-100949.png) These are what I have found on my little site screwing around over last couple of years. Probably 10 holes. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/dVnM2jL6/poimts.jpg)
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