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OSB and particleboard are two different things Yep. Bout the only place particleboard is used in residential construction is under carpet . Can't be used for sub floor, decking , storm sheeting or under vinyl flooring. It's the weapon of choice in factory built cabinets and furniture . Yep Can't nail or glue hardwood to it. It crumbles at the sight of water. I was at a fellers house many years ago it had a big hump in the floor. House was fairly new . Well this feller was a dumb cheapo and put particleboard under vinyl . BTW, it has formaldehyde in the resin/glue.
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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When I worked framing houses in the 70s it was standard practice to cover the subfloor with 3/4 particle board after the walls were up. Kinda dumb looking back on it. About half the nails you tried to drive would ricochet across the room. Wonder no one lost an eye. We didn’t bother with things like safety glasses.
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When I worked framing houses in the 70s it was standard practice to cover the subfloor with 3/4 particle board after the walls were up. Kinda dumb looking back on it. About half the nails you tried to drive would ricochet across the room. Wonder no one lost an eye. We didn’t bother with things like safety glasses. Yep, no air nailers back then , all hand drive and that stuff is HARD. Carpet was the rage in the 70's, that pale green shag was the bomb..........back then.
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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For anyone that doesn't know,
Particle board=sawdust and glue
OSB or oriented strand board= wood chips and glue
Plywood=thin layers of wood and glue You would probably be surprised at the amount of folks that do not know this.
Bite off more than you can chew and chew like hell
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They Call Me Gator 🐊
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For anyone that doesn't know,
Particle board=sawdust and glue
OSB or oriented strand board= wood chips and glue
Plywood=thin layers of wood and glue You would probably be surprised at the amount of folks that do not know this. I’ve always called sawdust and glue MDF (medium density fiber board). That’s what we called it in the furniture industry at least.
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They can’t build houses fast enough for people. And no price is too high. That affects lumber prices I’m sure.
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For anyone that doesn't know,
Particle board=sawdust and glue
OSB or oriented strand board= wood chips and glue
Plywood=thin layers of wood and glue You would probably be surprised at the amount of folks that do not know this. I’ve always called sawdust and glue MDF (medium density fiber board). That’s what we called it in the furniture industry at least. MDF material is broken down smaller than particle board material , it's fibers. That stuff puts off a dry fog of dust when cut and it'll flat stop yer nose up.
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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They can’t build houses fast enough for people. And no price is too high. That affects lumber prices I’m sure. I’m betting interest rates are about to nip that back. If the FED goes all in as some suspect, home prices will and materials will come back down. BIL works in the large warehouse buildings of 1 million plus square footages. They’re shut down right now due to lack of materials. Only a few weeks out of completion on this project and running a skeleton crew. He said some builds are being shuttered mid build and fines being paid for lack of completion.
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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They can’t build houses fast enough for people. And no price is too high. That affects lumber prices I’m sure. I’m betting interest rates are about to nip that back. If the FED goes all in as some suspect, home prices will and materials will come back down. BIL works in the large warehouse buildings of 1 million plus square footages. They’re shut down right now due to lack of materials. Only a few weeks out of completion on this project and running a skeleton crew. He said some builds are being shuttered mid build and fines being paid for lack of completion. The part people forget is that there are more dollars now. They created 30% more dollars. Each dollar is worth much less. So no matter what happens, everything will still cost more because the dollars we have, have been diluted.
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12 point
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Was in local building supply store 3 weeks ago and guy in front of me was quoted $59 per sheet. 1/2 “ osb. 1/2” cdx plywood was $61.
I would pay the $2 extra for plywood over osb
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They can’t build houses fast enough for people. And no price is too high. That affects lumber prices I’m sure. I’m betting interest rates are about to nip that back. If the FED goes all in as some suspect, home prices will and materials will come back down. BIL works in the large warehouse buildings of 1 million plus square footages. They’re shut down right now due to lack of materials. Only a few weeks out of completion on this project and running a skeleton crew. He said some builds are being shuttered mid build and fines being paid for lack of completion. The part people forget is that there are more dollars now. They created 30% more dollars. Each dollar is worth much less. So no matter what happens, everything will still cost more because the dollars we have, have been diluted. Some may but I still recall spending far fewer dollars in a weekend having a ton of fun than I can spend at a fast food joint in todays dollar. Friend of mine always referred to the McDonalds hamburger meal equal to minimum wage. No matter what time period it’s pretty close to accurate
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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When I worked construction in the 80s we built what was called starter homes. When we built in Madison we built family homes. Starter homes were around 1200-1400 sq ft and family homes were 1600-2000 sq ft. What are lost starter hike sq footage by todays standards? We built for $25 a ft and sold low 30s. What’s the average now? $125 plus
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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When I worked construction in the 80s we built what was called starter homes. When we built in Madison we built family homes. Starter homes were around 1200-1400 sq ft and family homes were 1600-2000 sq ft. What are lost starter hike sq footage by todays standards? We built for $25 a ft and sold low 30s. What’s the average now? $125 plus I doubt you could get one for $125 in the Huntsville/ Madison area. I'm guessing $150 +/- 10 . A large high end , custom, built by a high end builder in the Scottsboro area is around 200 per.
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When I worked construction in the 80s we built what was called starter homes. When we built in Madison we built family homes. Starter homes were around 1200-1400 sq ft and family homes were 1600-2000 sq ft. What are lost starter hike sq footage by todays standards? We built for $25 a ft and sold low 30s. What’s the average now? $125 plus I doubt you could get one for $125 in the Huntsville/ Madison area. I'm guessing $150 +/- 10 . A large high end , custom, built by a high end builder in the Scottsboro area is around 200 per. Yup similar here in the Auburn/Opelika area. My condo in Auburn for example is worth $186+/- per sqft which is crazy to me but the reality of it. New construction extremely close to me in Opelika for this condo/townhome thing is $210 per sqft. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1156-Burrow-Cir-Opelika-AL-36801/2064088325_zpid/Here's a SFH in that same neighborhood at $211 per sqft https://www.zillow.com/community/fox-run-village/2070774113_zpid/This is the builders website. https://www.hollandhomesllc.com/product/new-homes/communities/fox-run-village
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I have a couple of home builder friends in Huntsville. Sales prices on their homes are now starting at close to $200/SF in Meridianville, New Market area. Madison and closer to town will be even higher.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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Was in local building supply store 3 weeks ago and guy in front of me was quoted $59 per sheet. 1/2 “ osb. 1/2” cdx plywood was $61.
I would pay the $2 extra for plywood over osb I would too. Absolutely
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The Flippin’ Idiot That Could Care Less
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It was $6.98 a sheet in 2019 at Lowes when I insulated my garage. I removed all Sheetrock, insulated garage then used osb instead of plywood for sheathing. Cost me about $300 to do a single car garage. I thought it was too high. Ain't no way id build anything right now if it can wait. I'm having to wait the storm out as best I can.
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LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!!
- - - - - - - -A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jeferson - - - - - - - -
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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Not osb but yesterday i bought 9-2x8x16s, 3-2x12x8s and 4-2x10x8s and it cost $500. I got robbed at gunpoint once and that left me feeling less taken advantage of.
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