Originally Posted by jwalker77
Irish i never said it was made up but prove theyre Ukrainian then prove they were not shooting at the Russians and thats why the got killed. You cant do that. This is alot like the scientist making up a story about what the dinosaur was doing when it died. All we really have is some dead bodies, the rest is speculation. Were they innocent civilians or were they part of a civilian army who put their selves in harms way? Im not saying theyd be wrong for fighting the Russians either, thats exactly what i would do if i was them. You just cant really tell what went on there from a satellite picture, can you?


My post was not directed at you in particular, but just in folks in general who don't know which side is telling the truth. I think they are both lying, but I think the Russians are lying about everything, where as the Ukrainians are lying to simply stay alive. As I posted in the other thread, if the Ukrainians are lying about everything and they get caught, then the rest of the free world is going to abandon them, and without support they are going to die a slow painful death. ANd I honestly don't think they want to risk that. The Russians on the other hand, have a long and storied history of lying and will keep on lying.