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Originally Posted by CAL
Predators including hogs


This. And Chicken Litter. We had a great flock in Trinity years ago and the first year my neighbors used chicken litter they all died off. We found gobblers with pox on their heads dead in fields. I do not CARE what someone says about Chicken Litter. I believe what I SEE and OBSERVE in the wild. And that chicken litter decimated our flocks there.

But dont dare say so. That is big money. shocked popcorn

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^^^^ yea - my best friend was big trapper - sold lot of pelts and he had dogs and we Coon hunted too back in the 80s

Most places it ain’t got back no where close to where it was and probably never will


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Originally Posted by BhamFred
when I went to work in 1980 there were tons of trappers of all kinds. When fur prices fell in mid 80 the number of trappers fellow to the bottom. Never has returned to 1980 levels.


This too,my dad and granddad trapped way back then and made as much money trapping as they did working for an hourly wage,I remember my grandad running his line everyday after work and on the weekends

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I would think more trapping now than ever before.


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Hogs tearing up nests and eating the eggs.

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In addition to the trapping decline the number of coon hunters has dwindled drastically. I used to know of a bunch that did it and would go with them some, now I'm having a hard time thinking of any that I know that still do it.

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The loss of turkey habitat is #1 in my book! We have been leasing land in Dallas county since 2009 and the years of the timber harvest as drop our population by 75% due to more predator’s and the hogs! We went from hearing 15-20 a morning in hearing distance to now days 1-2 on a good day! We have been trapping the last few years, caught 21 coons this past weekend! The only place I’ve saw turkey's like thick woods is south Florida! Just saying, think of how many years the season started on the 15th with no problem!!!!!!

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Turkey Trivia question: Who knows why it is a good management practice to harvest Gobblers BEFORE the poults are born?

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Originally Posted by Old Hickory
Turkey Trivia question: Who knows why it is a good management practice to harvest Gobblers BEFORE the poults are born?


The ideal way to kill a turkey is to have him gobble and come to the call. That happens more reliably in the first 10 days of the season. That contributes to hunter satisfaction which results in trapping, burning and planting chufa. My hypothesis is just as valid as the one coming from Dr. Turkey.

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The man who taught me much of what I know about turkey hunting told me that everything in the woods is the turkeys enemy except the turkey hunter.

He is in his 70's now and told me this probably 25 years ago, back then most of the turkey hunters (and maybe hunters in general) he knew had a certain sense of conversation about them. Not everyone was as concerned about posting a picture on social media.

I may be very wrong but I wonder if the sense of conservation is lost on a lot of hunters were raised in a urban environment, or are not part of a established club or own any property. Not meaning that as a job, just saying I know a few people that show no real desire to preserve anything for the next season, or the next generation. These same people (that I know) have never owned any property and have been in multiple clubs, many of only a season or two before moving on to the next one. These people only care about tagging out.

Personally, (and I believe I see it in several people on here) I try all year to make improvements for the next year. This may be in trigger restraint, habitat improvements, predator control, and at times population control.

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Originally Posted by hosscat
The man who taught me much of what I know about turkey hunting told me that everything in the woods is the turkeys enemy except the turkey hunter.

He is in his 70's now and told me this probably 25 years ago, back then most of the turkey hunters (and maybe hunters in general) he knew had a certain sense of conversation about them. Not everyone was as concerned about posting a picture on social media.

I may be very wrong but I wonder if the sense of conservation is lost on a lot of hunters were raised in a urban environment, or are not part of a established club or own any property. Not meaning that as a job, just saying I know a few people that show no real desire to preserve anything for the next season, or the next generation. These same people (that I know) have never owned any property and have been in multiple clubs, many of only a season or two before moving on to the next one. These people only care about tagging out.

Personally, (and I believe I see it in several people on here) I try all year to make improvements for the next year. This may be in trigger restraint, habitat improvements, predator control, and at times population control.


^^^ spot on

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I may be very wrong but I wonder if the sense of conservation is lost on a lot of hunters were raised in a urban environment,


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Originally Posted by hosscat
The man who taught me much of what I know about turkey hunting told me that everything in the woods is the turkeys enemy except the turkey hunter.

He is in his 70's now and told me this probably 25 years ago, back then most of the turkey hunters (and maybe hunters in general) he knew had a certain sense of conversation about them. Not everyone was as concerned about posting a picture on social media.

I may be very wrong but I wonder if the sense of conservation is lost on a lot of hunters were raised in a urban environment, or are not part of a established club or own any property. Not meaning that as a job, just saying I know a few people that show no real desire to preserve anything for the next season, or the next generation. These same people (that I know) have never owned any property and have been in multiple clubs, many of only a season or two before moving on to the next one. These people only care about tagging out.

Personally, (and I believe I see it in several people on here) I try all year to make improvements for the next year. This may be in trigger restraint, habitat improvements, predator control, and at times population control.

amen.. I was always taught to leave some seed.. Most folks just want to brag about numbers

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Habitat and predators are #1 and #2. Secondary factors include more turkey hunters and more lethal methods of hunting (longer range guns and decoys).

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Where a greenfield grows. My own little paradise.
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See, the measure of a man is what he leaves behind.
Take what you need and pass it on down.
Give a little back to this sacred ground.
You're on sacred ground.

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