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Joined: Jul 2020
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I'd like to see buck rule changed to 4 or 5. Game check shows more bucks than doe in Shelby so I think the doe harvest needs to be 3 per Hunter.
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They Call Me Gator 🐊
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I don’t like government regulation at all. That being said I would like for my son to still be able to deer hunt when he’s my age. There’s a lot of folks in this state that just kill, kill, kill and they’re convinced that they’re not hurting anything because some other guy only kills one deer per year. I would much rather see hunters get organized and cull themselves than more government regulation but the fact is there’s a lot of bubbas who are just going to do whatever they want and screw everyone else.
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All I’ll ask is one question.
During the “good ol days” of hunting. What were the limits for bucks, and what were the limits for does?
The majority of you got what you asked for. All I’ll ask is one question.
During the “good ol days” of hunting. What were the limits for bucks, and what were the limits for does?
The majority of you got what you asked for. Thank you! The worst part is that there have been several examples in Georgia that could have forecasted what was coming for Alabama (south East and east Central region)….Worth County Ga in the 90s, and Randolph County Ga in the late 90s and 2000s. Both were “hot spots” in the state and experienced similar issues (liberal harvest, rapid pine/timber harvest, ag reduction, and unchecked lease practices). Worth County has seen a turnaround but it has taken 25 years. Randolph county is still struggling. It’s taken its toll here.
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Dances With Weeds
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So, let’s hear from some guys on here about how it should be handled. Flip the script and change the "messaging"
Folks that know don't shoot old does........ 
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Limit the doe harvest. Plenty of methods for this. Personally I would like to see us go back to doe days. It worked then, it will work now.
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Freak of Nature
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Not having a season that is a third of a year would likley help
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Dances With Weeds
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This is what I am saying. I have a bioloigist telling me to shoot 15 doe's..... This would be a good place to start changing that messaging.......
Folks that know don't shoot old does........
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Booner
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Not having a season that is a third of a year would likley help 
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It takes a long time to grow an old friend.
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If you look at that chart Swampy posted you’ll see that prior to the doe killing we were averaging killing about 225-250K bucks per season. Then we ramped the doe killing up and the number of bucks being killed drastically declined to about half that number….. That’s when they enacted the 3 buck limit to try and divide up the fewer deer. Why?.....Because we drastically reduced the overall population and there wasn’t as many for folks to kill anymore…..and we are still on a slow downward trend….We’re at 88K bucks killed right now and will be lucky to make it to 100K by seasons end so extend your yellow line on out to current day and you’ll see we’ve trended further downward.
Last edited by CNC; 02/04/22 03:39 PM.
Folks that know don't shoot old does........
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CNC, the Alabama estimated deer population was 1.6 mil in 1998
If I remember correctly the unlimited anterless season started in 1996-1997 season.
It takes a long time to grow an old friend.
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If you look at that chart Swampy posted you’ll see that prior to the doe killing we were averaging killing about 225-250K bucks per season. Then we ramped the doe killing up and the number of bucks being killed drastically declined to about half that number….. That’s when they enacted the 3 buck limit to try and divide up the fewer deer. Why?.....Because we drastically reduced the overall population and there wasn’t as many for folks to kill anymore…..and we are still on a slow downward trend….We’re at 88K bucks killed right now and will be lucky to make it to 100K by seasons end so extend your yellow line on out to current day and you’ll see we’ve trended further downward. This is exactly why I want to kill some spikes and not kill doe's.
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14 point
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If you look at that chart Swampy posted you’ll see that prior to the doe killing we were averaging killing about 225-250K bucks per season. Then we ramped the doe killing up and the number of bucks being killed drastically declined to about half that number….. That’s when they enacted the 3 buck limit to try and divide up the fewer deer. Why?.....Because we drastically reduced the overall population and there wasn’t as many for folks to kill anymore…..and we are still on a slow downward trend….We’re at 88K bucks killed right now and will be lucky to make it to 100K by seasons end so extend your yellow line on out to current day and you’ll see we’ve trended further downward. This is exactly why I want to kill some spikes and not kill doe's. Something needs to be done in my opinion. Just not sure what the answer is. We have heavily managed a 600 acre tract for 8-9 years now. LOW density area, around 15-20 deer/sq mile when we got it. We haven’t shot a doe on the property the entire time we’ve had it. There MIGHT be 30 deer on that sq mile now. We did have sone pine wastelands but thinning has significantly helped those areas (thinned last winter). We can’t really do much else.
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That's again why. If I got 30 deer, I don't need more than a couple bucks to breed the doe's.
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Lockjaw I would shoot every buck I saw and encourage everyone of you 30 hunters to do the same . I agree that will definitely help your deer population. Why not get 10 new members to help.
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Lockjaw I would shoot every buck I saw and encourage everyone of you 30 hunters to do the same . I agree that will definitely help your deer population. Why not get 10 new members to help. 10 would be a good start but I think another 20 members would really help those #’s shine.
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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Lockjaw I would shoot every buck I saw and encourage everyone of you 30 hunters to do the same . I agree that will definitely help your deer population. Why not get 10 new members to help. 10 would be a good start but I think another 20 members would really help those #’s shine. I agree. If you want better numbers you just gotta kill all the bucks. Then your doe numbers will start growing dramatically
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spike
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I wish we would go to 2 bucks and 3 does a year but it will never happen.
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Booner
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Booner
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You know you guys are in one camp. Don't shoot doe's. I have no ability to control members until I hold the lease. Already said I needed less.
However if what I'm saying is really true which is I have more bucks than doe's, then what possible benefits is there to keep all the bucks? I don't need 30 bucks consuming resources that doe's could consume. I don't that many to breed my doe population either.
So rather than smart off, why not say why? If I was overpopulated with doe's you would be telling me to shoot some, so why is that ok but not with an overpopulation of bucks?
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This is not the plural form of this word.
83% of all statistics are made up.
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