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So what are his secrets from people who have experience with him? What advice did he offer?
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son of a....Did you get his autograph CNC.... 
Did you know that Beer Nutz are over a Dollar...and Deer Nutz are under a Buck...
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I’m just curious as to what knowledge this guy can pull out of his hat over what we already know. Get as much high quality nutritions as you can to the deer and let them get old. Or is he more of the forester type? In other words he comes and looks at your property and tells you how to do this or that different with regards to burning and changing stands, food plots etc. The fact people pay that kind of money for a one day consult just further confirms how many idots are out there.
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Nobody will share his secrets they must be scared of his repercussions 😂
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83% of all statistics are made up.
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If he distanced himself from QDMA that proves he’s a fairly intelligent guy.
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I always thought I’d be good at helping people set their land up to kill deer. That’s all we’ve done on us for 35 years is improve our place. Not planting or mulching, but figuring out where to mulch. All lanes/fields are not created equal. Most guests I take with me comment on how nice our place is set up (to kill deer).
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Everything woke turns to shucks
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Not saying I 100 percent agree with everything I've heard from the state biologist I had come out here, but I have their materials for managing a deer herd for quality. They will help you do their program.
The biggest obstacle is it's timber company land. I have some good bucks on my lease, but they are really hard to hunt.
What I would like more is someone to walk my property with me and help me get it set up better.
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We haven’t planted a greenfield in two years now, but have killed some of our best deer ever.
Everything woke turns to shucks
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Never read his material- hav a buddy who owns a lot of land that really high on him. He said a lot of what Buxtin says revolves on low pressure - I could give u that advice for free - big deer gone find the low pressure areas
My place now - 2 of my best deer showing up to a field I hunted once in early jan - they coming regular - in daylight - no pressure
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self
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I'm not sure what the smallest tract his program will work on, but I'm sure a lot of the people that have large tracts have more money than time. I learned a long time ago not to worry about how other people spend their money, especially in relation to hobbies.
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son of a....Did you get his autograph CNC.... 
"For what shall it profit a man if he gain the whole world and lose his soul?" .....Mark 8:36
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Say what you want... but I ain't ever seen as fine of a stand of clover or alfalfa in Alabama as those fields he shows. Saw him at a seminar once and the way he described "saving landowners money" went something like this.
Let's say your annual planting costs looked like this:
Fall planting: $2,000
Spring planting: $1,000
Total: $3,000 annually
5yr cost: $15,000
Obviously, you don't have to plant a lot to hit those totals.
He gets very site specific in planting, and uses a lot of "brown bag" seed to create his own mixes that come back annually. Maybe he can get better planting production like this:
Fall planting: $1,200 yr1 $800 yr2-5
Spring planting: $800 yr1 $300 yr2-5
Total: $2,000 yr1 $1,100 yr2-5
5yr cost: $6,400 … $8,600 less than original
I mention that seminar I saw him at. After what I saw, I kinda get why he may come off touchy. He was the paid speaker at a open floor event where you could ask him questions. Another "biologist" (using the term loosely) showed up, stood in the back of the room, and argued against everything Mark said. "That crap don't work." "My way works better." Etc. Mark, with proven results, was the paid speaker... yet some no-name clown wants to argue at every turn about how their way is better.
He asked then, and I agree: post pictures of your results next to mine. Let the results speak for themselves.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson
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Here's free advice on growing mature deer. Feed them leave them alone and don't shoot them until they are grown
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Here's free advice on growing mature deer. Feed them leave them alone and don't shoot them until they are grown Agreed. I think a thick grown up field is a better draw than a planted field many times. I think a lot of these habitat improvement guys make things a lot more complicated than they need to be. I am a big believer in clover too.
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Say what you want... but I ain't ever seen as fine of a stand of clover or alfalfa in Alabama as those fields he shows. Saw him at a seminar once and the way he described "saving landowners money" went something like this.
Let's say your annual planting costs looked like this:
Fall planting: $2,000
Spring planting: $1,000
Total: $3,000 annually
5yr cost: $15,000
Obviously, you don't have to plant a lot to hit those totals.
He gets very site specific in planting, and uses a lot of "brown bag" seed to create his own mixes that come back annually. Maybe he can get better planting production like this:
Fall planting: $1,200 yr1 $800 yr2-5
Spring planting: $800 yr1 $300 yr2-5
Total: $2,000 yr1 $1,100 yr2-5
5yr cost: $6,400 … $8,600 less than original
I mention that seminar I saw him at. After what I saw, I kinda get why he may come off touchy. He was the paid speaker at a open floor event where you could ask him questions. Another "biologist" (using the term loosely) showed up, stood in the back of the room, and argued against everything Mark said. "That crap don't work." "My way works better." Etc. Mark, with proven results, was the paid speaker... yet some no-name clown wants to argue at every turn about how their way is better.
He asked then, and I agree: post pictures of your results next to mine. Let the results speak for themselves.
Was this the one at Moes BBQ in downtown Mobile about 6 years ago? If so, I happened to be sitting next to that "clown" (not by choice just randomly). He talked to me the whole time about how his system was superior. That guy was the reason Mark stopped doing seminars.
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Buxton is supposed to hav a seminar in Clarke county in June - hav not planned on going - but he got one in Tville n June
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self
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Say what you want... but I ain't ever seen as fine of a stand of clover or alfalfa in Alabama as those fields he shows. Saw him at a seminar once and the way he described "saving landowners money" went something like this.
Let's say your annual planting costs looked like this:
Fall planting: $2,000
Spring planting: $1,000
Total: $3,000 annually
5yr cost: $15,000
Obviously, you don't have to plant a lot to hit those totals.
He gets very site specific in planting, and uses a lot of "brown bag" seed to create his own mixes that come back annually. Maybe he can get better planting production like this:
Fall planting: $1,200 yr1 $800 yr2-5
Spring planting: $800 yr1 $300 yr2-5
Total: $2,000 yr1 $1,100 yr2-5
5yr cost: $6,400 … $8,600 less than original
I mention that seminar I saw him at. After what I saw, I kinda get why he may come off touchy. He was the paid speaker at a open floor event where you could ask him questions. Another "biologist" (using the term loosely) showed up, stood in the back of the room, and argued against everything Mark said. "That crap don't work." "My way works better." Etc. Mark, with proven results, was the paid speaker... yet some no-name clown wants to argue at every turn about how their way is better.
He asked then, and I agree: post pictures of your results next to mine. Let the results speak for themselves.
Was this the one at Moes BBQ in downtown Mobile about 6 years ago? If so, I happened to be sitting next to that "clown" (not by choice just randomly). He talked to me the whole time about how his system was superior. That guy was the reason Mark stopped doing seminars. That's the one!
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson
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$500 for the seminar in Thomasville
3 things that define what kind of person a man is: women, money, and deer
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It seems that at least a few people on here have had dealing with Mark and they have all said he really knows his stuff, I'm curious what has he offered in terms of advice that was uniquely different than anyone's else or available literature? Particularly how a person would save on costs, for instance I already use "brown bag" seed and not fancy blends with a deer on the bag, I try to rotate legumes to gain free nitrogen, and have started to no-till as much as possible to help overall soil health.
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