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Never should have legalized baiting IMO. Had legal baiting in Michigan for decades until diseases hit then they banned it. They say a pile of bait transmits disease from all the deer being in close proximity. Seems suspicious to me that as soon as baiting legalized in AL, bam here come diseases.
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So now the solution is to kill them all off? What the hell kind of management plan is this?
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Never should have legalized baiting IMO. Had legal baiting in Michigan for decades until diseases hit then they banned it. They say a pile of bait transmits disease from all the deer being in close proximity. Seems suspicious to me that as soon as baiting legalized in AL, bam here come diseases.
This is what they wanted.
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Exactly right . High fence operation in hardeman co tn . Had deer transported in from other states. Fence got blew down in tornado few years back. Heard bout this alot . First reported cwd was there now its all over western tn . I work in tn for timber companys an go to logging schools where there is always a wildlife biologist there talking bout this.just went to one in counce a month ago. They will NOT answer that question bout the high fence operation . Claim they have no idea how it got to tn. But they are checking . Been 3 years they should already know. They said no telling how many deer in western tn has already been eaten by hunters with the cwd an no problems. Was this a state facility? Was Tennesse not a closed border state?
Life is difficult
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Hasn't spread to humans? Just give it time. It can also sit dormant for years. Just give it time.
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They Call Me Gator š
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If hunters could come together this could end up a good thing.
For instance, years now weāve all been complaining about the price to lease land. Now having CWD present we could press into those timber companies and private landowners to lower the cost per acre since Alabama is now a CWD-positive state.
We should also tell the state to go f themselves about paying more to bait. As a big group of hunters we should overturn the baiting law (all of it, no baiting during the season at all) and tell them weāre doing it to try and save our deer herd.
If they donāt bite then do as 257 said and mark every single deer killed as lauderdale county
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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Better cook it before you eat it.
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Better cook it before you eat it. I dont like overcooked venison. Might as well be chewing on shoe-leather.
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Hasn't spread to humans? Just give it time. It can also sit dormant for years. Just give it time. You need to read all of the actual papers on this and do some dinging most of the primate studies have been discredited, and the authors have went silent as a result, there is a lot to it. Pull the actual papers and read them for your self objectively before you start regurgitating their lies.
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Life is difficult
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We need to ban green fields as well.
Save the herd!
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Letās all make it a point to report any deer killed anywhere in AL as killed in lauderdale co. Letās give them a dose of what they want Itās already been happening. Total kill for 2019 was 1753 and total for 2020 was 3749. That is a big increase for 1 year.
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What if the legalization of baiting was more about increasing harvest numbers ahead of the unavoidable discovery of CWD?
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Iām fixing to shoot some does this pm in lauderdale county
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I donāt believe wiping out the herd is the primary goal, in fact I donāt believe itās a goal at all. It seems logical though that if you reduce the population you can slow the spread of a disease but I donāt believe that is what they are trying to do. I think they are wanting a bigger sample size to see how prevalent it is. Hereās an interesting article which does talk about the positive impact that removing mature bucks has on cwd in affected areas. Btw I first read about this in the nra publication but could not find the link but this one is similar. https://www.patrickdurkinoutdoors.com/post/study-shooting-more-rutting-bucks-reduces-cwd
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I donāt know about Lauderdale but I know Colbert has some stone cold killers that will shoot anything that moves night or day Thatās just cause ol Dicky aināt in the game warden business no more Young game warden who only seems to be interested in harassing people who hunt near his duck lease is who we got now
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Hasn't spread to humans? Just give it time. It can also sit dormant for years. Just give it time. You need to read all of the actual papers on this and do some dinging most of the primate studies have been discredited, and the authors have went silent as a result, there is a lot to it. Pull the actual papers and read them for your self objectively before you start regurgitating their lies. Covid has shown me that our ,gov and its appendages will say or do whatever is politically expedient regardless of the effect on the citizenry. I don't believe a damn word they say. They lied about the covid. They lied about the vaccinations - why would they have any credibility about cwd? And just a little more info. My wife's nephew died from Jacob Creutzfeld's Disease - aka mad cow. He traveled all over Africa and the Middle East as a child with his parents. It was assumed he was infected there and the prions were dormant until he was in his teens. He started having motor skill problems and when tested they found it. He died at twenty-six. Yes its rare. But it still killed him. Like covid the results will be seen in 10-15 years.
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I donāt know about Lauderdale but I know Colbert has some stone cold killers that will shoot anything that moves night or day Thatās just cause ol Dicky aināt in the game warden business no more Young game warden who only seems to be interested in harassing people who hunt near his duck lease is who we got now So yāall got Brad now?
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"We'll the first man comes along that can read Latin is welcome to rob us,...I'd like the chance to shoot at an educated man once in my life" Gus McCrae
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From what i know the pen was a private facility. Im assuming the breeder bucks brought from
Other states wasn t tested for cwd. Tn didn t have any issues with cwd at the time. Pretty sure
Its really odd the biologists in tn or game wardens don t have an answer to where the cwd came from
But all the local people in that area say it came from deer in the high fence area . I think all the first
Deer with cwd was within the local area of the fence operation.
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