Originally Posted by CNC
Originally Posted by cc28


I'm agreeing that the bucks have no influence on the estrous cycle. The doe fawns mother would dictate when she comes in estrous. You could take a buck from where ever, he'll still only breed her when shes ready.

Yes, the buck will spread his genetics, but I do not believe he will be a factor in his offsprings estrous cycle.

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cc28………Something about the situation playing out in Bankhead that should be taken into consideration with this discussion is the habitat fragmentation that exists around Bankhead……I’m not overly familiar with that area but I bet you just looking at the landscape that you move from an area of higher deer density inside of that circle I’ve drawn of the interior to an area of lower deer density around the perimeter…..especially if we’re talking about doe groups…..I think Matt said this was so as well…..…One of the likely reasons that Bankhead is producing some toads on a regular basis is because what you likely have happening is there are some bucks living mostly in isolation and growing old in some hidey holes around the perimeter in low density spots where there may be little or no hunting happening because "there's no deer there". He moves into Bankhead for the rut and then moves back to his core area afterwards. Have you ever heard about big bucks existing on the fringe of a population? I think that is due to the potential to grow old in an area where the carrying capacity is well below max.
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Difficult terrain and low density certainly play a factor in a bucks ability to get some age and also maximize his genetic potential. Just like hunting overlooked places, or a spot everyone passes up can pay off. Bucks that make it to maturity aren't generally moving far during daylight and seek out a core area that can support them without having to do so, or be harrassed/pressured. Sometimes thats no more than 100 or 200 yds from pressure. For instance, the private parcels scattered that dont get hunted give them plenty of places to hide, and they may only give an opportunity during the rut. Or you may get lucky and catch them getting back a little late at first light. Then they spend the daylight hours on those few inaccessible acres. Not a quitters game.