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Lol. No I don’t. I’m also not in here advocating for them. So in your words your argument is apples and oranges. I wasn't talking to you. You haven't seen me advocating for whoever the accused is. You assume you know who is being accused, if anyone, in a post with a snipping in it that doesn't list the accused, and you assume falsely that I advocate for whoever the accused are when I haven't . Honesty isn't one of your virtues, is it?
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Nice deflection but you still haven’t answered my question. All those acts listed (against non union miners) are what we are discussing. This place is not an organization you join, then pay dues to). This is a public setting no different than a parking lot with 100+ hunters standing around. Now back to the question.
As a Christian how can you condone the actions of YOUR coworkers and UNION BROTHERS? It’s an easy question. I think my deflection was better than yours. At least, more accurate. As a Christian, I like to know who is being accused and what the circumstances involve. Since the snipping doesn't include that information, it's not an easy question. I don't make the same assumption you are making given the limited information. As an experienced negotiator you understand that employers may exaggerate when filing for restraining orders. It appears that may be the source of the snipping, but I can't say for sure, so I won't assume that it is. The date shows it was entered back in May, so there should be some record of it being approved or not if it was a request for a restraining order. The post author probably has information he's not sharing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj0yEjIQSvg
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shucks y'all still at this. Don't y'all know you're never going go change anyone's mind on either side.
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If I did not like a job, my pay ,benefits ,pension plan etc I just quit.
I certainly did not physically attack the management, harass or assault the guy taking my job or key anyones cars. Sounds like a bunch of azz wipes to me.
You complained I said "Jeez" and acted butt hurt, but condone actual CRIMES. Felonies and misdemeanors. SMDH.
Your Hypocrisy knows no bounds does it? Have you sat back and looked how ridiculous you are appearing? You just made a lot of false accusations and then called me a hypocrite?
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I’m leery of folks who go around proclaiming how “Christian” they are. A mans actions can usually let me judge character. And you Ruffin sure ride a mighty high horse
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I’m leery of folks who go around proclaiming how “Christian” they are. A mans actions can usually let me judge character. And you Ruffin sure ride a mighty high horse Be specific. What have I done that is not Christ like?
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you Ruffin sure ride a mighty high horse You know it's illegal to be drunk while riding a horse but totally legal to ride an inebriated horse.
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Glad I dont own a horse
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I'm waiting for you to explain your vague accusation with details. Are you man enough to back up what you say?
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Yes I am. You come on here bashing a man for saying jeez. You don’t know his connotation of the word. Maybe he was meaning something else. You judged him and all others who don’t fit your “perfect mold”. You need to realize you make stark comments like you’ve never done any wrong. And for the bashing of Hoggin you did over the weekend let’s just say that was pretty sorry too. He is a sole proprietor who has stuck his neck out and been successful in life. Not once did he say your coal mining buddies were useless or lazy. But yet you spun it that way every chance you got. Allthat he was saying and me too was that at one point this country’s workforce benefitted from unions. Nowadays not so much but you spin it off that that many on here were calling every man in one a POS and that’s simply not the case.
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I’m leery of folks who go around proclaiming how “Christian” they are. A mans actions can usually let me judge character. And you Ruffin sure ride a mighty high horse Be specific. What have I done that is not Christ like? We dont know you so ask yourself the same question and lets see if youre man enough to admit you are a sinner just like everyone else who ever breathed air, except the Lord himself? We ALL fall short of the Glory of God, that covers you too.
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Them boys at bamahuntin are right. A bunch of self righteous better than everybody else pricks around this place. Not all. But there’s a bunch of you.
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A lot of y’all dogging unions out couldn’t run a weed eater for 30 minutes, much less work a job like some of these union guys you dogging out work everyday.
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you Ruffin sure ride a mighty high horse You know it's illegal to be drunk while riding a horse but totally legal to ride an inebriated horse. I've never been on a horse that was high, and certainly never one that was drink.
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I have friends and family that are coal miners, some have connections to Warrior Met. Some are union and some aren't. Some are harder workers than others, some aren't. At the end of the day they are still my friends and family and neither the union reps nor the "rich investors" have ever broke bread with us over the holidays or special occasions.
It's a job, regardless if you're a union man or a company man you both work for somebody else. Your job isn't guaranteed and if you don't like it there then someone else will come along and fill your position. Someone else had your job before you got it and someone else will get it after you're gone.
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Hard to sympathize with people bashing in windows and flattening tires of working people
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If I worked in a coal mine I would expect a good pension, above average wages, lifetime health benefits, and other exemplary benefits to take care of my spouse and kids should something happen. These are not mechanics or truck driving jobs, lot more at risk and more health risks. Don't know much about miners union, but this should be the push, that the owners will take care of their family while the breadwinner works a high risk job. Never worked for a union and never had family work for a coal union, but did see a good union at work for my family for 30 years, so they do exist. If it hadn't been for the union the contractor would have pulled all the benefits from the employees and those guys would have been making right above minimum wage. I do remember the member's having to strike to not lose their benefits and wages. Scary times if your a kid! My heart does goes out to the miners and their families having been in a family and experiencing our family going through a strike. Then, having to hearing the animosity from people totally against a union and 100% against having someone stand up to help them doesn't help right now! With the deaths that happened in those coal mines in Tuscaloosa years ago we don't need a repeat of that. A lot of people may fear a reprisal when they speak of un-safe working conditions and a good union may be a way for workers to speak up to prevent injuries without retaliation. Most jobs today people can't do that without the fear of being let go when they suffer injuries or report major risks. I hope there will be common ground found soon for the sake of the miners, their families, and owners!
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you Ruffin sure ride a mighty high horse You know it's illegal to be drunk while riding a horse but totally legal to ride an inebriated horse. I've never been on a horse that was high, and certainly never one that was drink. Me neither, it might not be so bad if he was on the pot, but if it's the meths, woah Nelly!
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If a man want's to work for a union that is his business and none of mine. About a third of my working career was in a union job. I saw both good and bad. On the judging part that this topic has turned into, the Lord said "he that is without sin let him cast the first stone" so put all your rocks back in your pocket and quit making enemies of each other
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Doing the best I can.
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Them boys at bamahuntin are right. A bunch of self righteous better than everybody else pricks around this place. Not all. But there’s a bunch of you. I’m pretty sure one of the most “self righteous “ posters on this thread is one of “them boys” you are referring to.
The true mark of a man is not how he conducts himself during times of prosperity, but how he conducts himself during times of adversity.
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