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Unless you worked in the mines we're talkin about in Brookwood you're lying. I didn't see the waste and laziness you may have seen in places where you shared in the management.

Like I said above, I saw production records being set. Unity of the workforce evened out the balance between authority and those being supervised. Bosses tend to be more apt to understand the concept of "you take care of me and I'll take care of you". Those bosses who came in trying to be Mr. Badass didn't last too long in my experience underground.



As for squeezing the turnip and "waste" ...



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Laziness and waste don't generate million dollar "bonuses" for rich investors and CEOs.

I totally agree, I have worked in both steel mills. I would agree there is no comparison.

When I got out of the army I worked in a factory that joining the union was optional, I didn’t.
You could spend 5 minutes in there without saying a word to anyone and know exactly who was and wasn’t. It was about 80% and some jobs were not open to non union. Non union production averaged 3x the union production. The union kept pushing until it wasn’t an option at all not long after I left and immediately after that started pushing for pay and benefits that were so far beyond reality it was funny. The company didn’t even negotiate, just locked the gate. Not a single person that worked there when it closed ever got back to 50% of what they made there I guarantee it because they were over paid and underworked before they got greedy

I’m just gonna say this and move along. I’m a union worker and ive earned every penny I make. Our company is extremely profitable despite everyone here who thinks it can’t be done. I’m proud to be Union and wouldn’t have it any other way. And if you don’t like that then I guess you can kiss my Union azz.

That CEO is paid within the AVERAGE rate of CEOs in any industry. Good CEOs make a company, bad ones sink them. The guy has a BS, an MBA and a Juris Doctorate. Pretty good pedigree regardless. Is the pay worth it? I can’t say because I don’t keep up with their stock. Maybe maybe not. BUT unfortunately that’s a cost of doing business. And yes there is waste in ANY facility so you are either blind to it or don’t want to admit it.

One of my closest friends is a UMWA miner. Love him to death and he will flat out tell you there are plenty of things wrong with the union and the way things are addressed and at the same time support them. I realize it’s hard to bite the hand that feeds you but don’t be so blind that you lose sight of everything. The unions and the company could BOTH do things better but the company isn’t the only issue. The unions have done this to themselves, well actually the greedy union organizers.

Jeez. This guy keeps saying "Rich Investors" like he is a darn socialist. Wth? Who does he think employs most Americans? The government?

He may be whild bills chineeese uncle

Well duh. Didn’t you know everyone should make the same amount of money regardless of job responsibility.

UPS is a union company and I don't see anyone out producing them. So this doesn't hold water. And UPS employees pay zero for their insurance. I guess if other non-union companies had the intelligence of the people running UPS they could be profitable and have their insurance paid. That obviously aint happening for most of y'alls companies you work for.

Rich investors own Warrior Met Coal. I don't say that because I'm a "darn socialist". I say it because it's the truth. Some of you don't value the truth very much.

Look for yourself.

That just shows how clueless you are. That Fidelity fund and the Vanguard group I own shares in. It is a money market with regular people invested in through their 401k's. Lol. If you're in a union they no doubt have 401k accounts with those same companies. Rich investors. Lol 😂😆

Those are investment companies investing people's retirement funds. Jeez

Do you understand how things actually work? I bet your union retirement plan invests in those same money markets. Making you another "rich investor" I guess using your logic.

It's foolish to take the name of the Lord in vain for the sake of an argument.

And, yes, those are all "rich investors" with their own interests taking priority over those of the coal miners in Brookwood.

I hope #3 gets a lot richer , that helps me and a lot more commoners . Several mutual fund / retirement planing brokerages in there . I grew up in a union house , my dad was blessed , I am blessed and am non union . I don’t think it’s a one size fits all thing . At one time unions did a lot of good in my opinion ( especially in the early days ) and still can . That being said it’s a lot like other things discussed here , if it’s for u and what’s best for your family go for it , if it’s not and you have more options that are better or different go for that . I know of a plant right now that is non union but because of ppl leaving over pay the last couple of years ( started pre virus ) got about 35% raise in said time . I wish them the best I really do but I also want to see the company do well or those jobs will be lost . Hopefully they will come to a fair compromise for everyone .

Easy now, don’t confuse him with facts and truth. He’s already made clear that won’t work

Wtf are you talking about?

And that's my point exactly. You invest in the investment funds with your own interests as a priority. Those interests collectively become "rich investors" who own Warrior Met. The interests of the Brookwood Coal Miners are not shared by those "rich investors" who own Warrior Met. If they were, you wouldn't invest your money with them.

Using another spelling to take the name of Jesus in vain does not excuse it any more than typing Wtf changes the fact that you are using profanity that is unacceptable in this forum in it's true form.

You really can’t be this stupid. Or maybe you can. I own shares of all different kinds of companies (401k). I bought them for one reason and that’s to hopefully make more money. However I have ZERO input in how any of those companies are run. A public company or organization is ran by the Board of Directors. Major decisions are presented and voted on by those members. Educate yourself some!! Read something other than what the union gives you.

Welcome back, Eddie.