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I always said I wouldn't use them on elk and am now convinced. A guy I know shot a bull a few days ago about 30min before dark.
Trailed what little blood he could find and backed out. Next day went to his parents house to approach from where the bull was headed and when he got to
their house he noticed a nice bull pushing cows around by the apple trees. It was the same bull he shot lol. Arrow poking out and all. Anyway, once light he
poked him and the bull bugled so he poked him again. The mech head to the lung had failed to open.
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"I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it." Captain Woodrow F. Call
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10 point
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Not a fan on mechanical. Will always shoot fixed.
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So this bull ran around chasing tail for at least 12 hours with an unopened mechanical in one lung?
What broadhead was it that failed to open?
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Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Grim reapers will frak something up.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Old Mossy Horns
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They may work but I'll stick with fixed...simpler is more trustworthy to me
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Ben Franklin
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A fixed head will out penetrate a mechanical head, that’s a given. It’s the “failed to open” that I don’t buy. The first shot was most likely a shoulder or high backstrap hit that did not penetrate very far. I’d like to know exactly what head it was and see some pics. I’ve heard this failed to open excuse too many times only for it to be proven wrong. That seems to be the number one excuse for people that don’t like mechanicals and have very little experience using them.
"I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it." Captain Woodrow F. Call
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Booner
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A fixed head will out penetrate a mechanical head, that’s a given. It’s the “failed to open” that I don’t buy. The first shot was most likely a shoulder or high backstrap hit that did not penetrate very far. I’d like to know exactly what head it was and see some pics. I’ve heard this failed to open excuse too many times only for it to be proven wrong. That seems to be the number one excuse for people that don’t like mechanicals and have very little experience using them. Whatever lol. He shot the bull with 2 mechanical heads. One failed to open and neither was a shoulder hit or high backstrap. The bull died after being shot 4 times. 2 mech heads and 2 Magnum Buzzcuts. As far as excuses, I don't need an excuse since I will not shoot an elk with one. They won't penetrate and hold up like a fixed blade although people have great experiences with them.
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So this bull ran around chasing tail for at least 12 hours with an unopened mechanical in one lung?
What broadhead was it that failed to open? Yes, you read that properly lol. I hit a bull high last year that was chasing cows the next morning. We also had a guy shoot a bull high lung that was killed by another friend 3 days later still running his herd.
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Pretty sure it was a Rage but, I won't know until he's back from a hunt and I'll ask
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Cool, I really have a reason to lie about a broadhead LMAO. Why would I post something that wasn't me and I really could care less about ? Plus he killed the elk
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Buttercup
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Pictures or it didn't happen!!! Lol
I have shot close to 30 deer with Rage and I have never had one not open. Although I have made piss poor shots that resulted in two lost deer. One of which was found by buzzards with a two inch entrance and the other was gut shot and watched on camera for 3 days before she disappeared also with a gaping hole.
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Actually got a reply, it was a Rage. I don't know anything about them because I don't use them. If there's anything requiring the user to do, he may have messed up but here's what I know
1 rage to one lung failed to open.
1 Rage up low and front, that was the bleeder he quit tracking about 10pm
next morning
1 buzzcut to lungs for a pass through
1 buzzcut to hind qtr trying to poke another hole and was rushed
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Have fun, back to hunting for me
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How does he know it didn’t open? Due to the design of the head, it would be damn near impossible for the blades not to open. The only thing I can see that would prevent it from opening, besides wiring the blades together, would be the head being gummed up severely with something or corroded. So if that head failed to open, which I highly doubt, it was user error on his part.
"I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it." Captain Woodrow F. Call
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I’ve had good luck out of big cut mechanical heads. They may burn me one day……but haven’t yet. Even shot a 300lb black bear and got complete pass through. Same with every deer I’ve shot
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Freak of Nature
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If it's mechanical , it can fail.
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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Please don’t tell all the critters I’ve killed with multiple mechanicals that they don’t work. I’ve got em convinced pretty good. In my unprofessional opinion it would be hard for a rage not to open. I think ol buddy made a less than stellar shot.
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10 point
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PS I don’t shoot rages. I have and had great luck just found one I like better
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