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Amazing how Biden and Harris refused To take the vaccine while Trump was president but now demand everyone take it. Strange that the delta variant is easier to transmit yet less deadly according to the science that news keeps telling us about but we are to believe that young healthy people are dying in large numbers. My youngest son who has had major health issues his entire life had the virus as well as his wife and 1.5 yr old daughter, they had mild symptoms and I’m grateful for that but the day before they both tested positive they were at the house with the rest of us for a birthday party, they didn’t know they had it and nobody else caught it. I’m sorry but I’m just not buying this BS, for whatever reason the govt is falling all over itself to force us to get this vaccine, a vaccine that has killed quite a few people and is causing some people to have serious health issues. The CDC is looking into one of the vaccines that is causing healthy people to have heart issues and since I already have that, no thanks.
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First my disclaimer: I don’t care if you get/got the shot. I don’t care if you wear a mask. I do believe the government should NOT mandate either. We’ve learned enough to know that if you’re gonna get it, then you’re just gonna get it. I vote republican. I love Jesus with all my heart, soul, and mind. I hunt over corn occasionally, but not at night and not for turkeys. Figured I needed to throw that out there before I get roasted.
I believe this virus came from a lab in China. No doubt. We do research here in the states using viruses as well. I don’t trust China and would not doubt that this virus was being modified to attack specific targeted cells in people. Researches here use a virus similar to the HIV virus in cancer treatment. The virus is modified by using a viral vector to carry Chimeric Antigen Receptor T-Cell. The viral vector is able to replicate inside the person therefore replicating the T-Cell. This isn’t your average T-Cell. This T-Cell has been modified to recognize a patient’s specific type of leukemia or lymphoma and only attack it and not the good cells. There are side effects. The side effects can be mild, like a fever, or bad, like kidney failure, respiratory failure, high fevers, neurotoxicity(basically Cytokine Release Syndrome or CRS). CRS is what is seen in most of the very sick Covid patients. This is due to the body’s response to the the virus and over reacting. I say all this to say, if this specific Corona Virus was being used as a vector to transport and replicate something, what was the something? I don’t believe it was gonna be good. I believe it was gonna be a 1…….2 punch type of infection. The leaking of the covid-19 may be a blessing in disguise. Just my thoughts.
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I may have china flu cause i just clipped my toenails now i cant breathe very good
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Got a friend that has a good friend in the hospital in Houston deathly sick with Covid. Supposedly the wife has asked for ivermectin and hydroxychloriquine to be given. Hospital is refusing. Said he is only on Tylenol and a steroid. Suppose to be one of the leading hospitals she says. That’s some BS if I’m about to die I would like to get what might save my life. Transfer to Houston hospital and Dr. Varone! thank you sir. I will pass it on to them
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I truly believe democraps are 100% of the problem EXACTLY!!!!
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I was slow to read this PCP since there so much hating on here over the the people getting the vax. I could not emphatically tell somebody one way or the other on what to do w 100% certainty cause there so much unknown. thanks for posting
W that said - there some things u can look at to help decide for your self. Reading medical news from Bama hospital - most cases in hospital hav not been fully vaxed (around 95%) - most deaths - no vax - close to 100% - what do you know - that matches info just posted by PCP
Then from simple stand point - look at what is most of professional organizations and sports authorities doing - getting vax - Bama football at 95% - Saban must be an idiot right?
Maybe we Alabamians are the shear minority geniuses not getting it 🤣🤣
Usually I would not say crap - but when there so much dookie being spread in here against - I will say something if i believe in the other direction. None of us hav all the answers w this virus- it has to b your decision - but I would b dang if I would hate on it when I did not know fully and some dude in here dies because of it. I know dudes who died from it - don’t know any who got vaxed and did. And I hav heard even if u had virus - u got six month immunity - also heard 9 months - also heard 12 months. So we really don’t know that either
I Ain’t grown that 3rd tit yet either - I might - but most medical experts say if a side effect were going to happen - it would happen in first 3-4 weeks - I going on 3 months now and know ton folks close to me vax - no 3rd tits there either - matches what PCP just posted
Good luck w your decisions
Great post PCP
Think I May jump off the Vax threads now - lot of them r straight dookie Thanks, but understand that all I did was post a text that was forwarded to me, written by someone I don't know very well. I don't doubt that she has seen 200 people die from covid. She works on the floor of a big hospital where all the covid patients get sent, and has been working there since it started. So if anyone in that hospital died from covid in the past 18 months she probably had some contact with them. I don't doubt her story, but it's just her perceptions based on her experience. Dealing with covid patients every working day for 18 months has no doubt given her a different perspective from someone like me who is rarely in contact with anyone who has it. I haven't posted anything about my personal thoughts regarding covid in a good while, so I might as well give it a try. My thoughts are based on my perspective, which is different from that of anyone else. I grew up watching Roy Rogers on TV every afternoon, and he taught me that the world is made up of the Good Guys who wear white hats, and the Bad Guys who wear black hats. Maybe I eventually realized the world is a little more complicated than that, but I don't think there is any question that I still tend to view the world through my Roy Rogers filter. So when covid started, I thought it was pretty obvious that the CCP was the primary Bad Guy. They benefitted too much from it for it to just be a coincidence, and their cover story regarding bats made no sense. As time went on, I reached the conclusion that there were probably people in our own country and own government who were also wearing the Black Hats. And their plan worked; they got rid of their biggest enemy and got their own guy elected president. I don't think we can imagine how much control the CCP now has over the USA government. Now obviously, Trump was the guy wearing the White Hat and representing Roy Rogers in the story. He certainly had a lot of flaws as president, but I honestly believe that he wanted good things for America, and supported concepts like Freedom and Liberty far more than his opponents. One of the things the media kept emphasizing in the early days of covid was that it would be many years before a vaccine was possible. I have heard the FDA cursed for decades because of the endless red tape they put on the drug companies, causing us to have to pay far more for our medicine than the rest of the world. I always thought government red tape was something that conservatives wanted to limit, not just in medicine, but in every aspect of our lives. So it wasn't surprising to me that Trump vowed to cut the red tape and get a vaccine available before the end of the year. The Left and the media ridiculed him for saying this, insisting that it was impossible. Well, he got it done, though it was kept quiet until after the election. Now of course the vaccine doesn't have the normal FDA approval; Trump cut out all the nonsense usually associated with a new vaccine or drug so that the world could get back to something resembling normal. And he absolutely had to indemnify the drug companies or there is no way in the world they could have released the vaccines. If he hadn't, someone in Lowndes county would have died and a jury there would have given a $100 trillion judgement against the company. This is the Trump vaccine. It would not exist without him. If Biden had been president when it started we would still be living under lockdown conditions, and the promise of a vaccine would still be years away. "Essential" workers would be working, but everyone else would be on government assistance for years to come. America as we know it would be destroyed; it probably is anyway, but I refuse to believe that Trump was in on it I don't know whether the various vaccines will prove to have unexpected side effects or not, but I do think that Trump is the guy wearing the White Hat. I believe that there are indeed all sorts of conspiracies against America in play right now, but I can't see the Trump vaccine being one of them. I am not encouraging anyone to take it, but I do encourage everyone to drop the idea that it was intentionally created to harm us.
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I was slow to read this PCP since there so much hating on here over the the people getting the vax. I could not emphatically tell somebody one way or the other on what to do w 100% certainty cause there so much unknown. thanks for posting
W that said - there some things u can look at to help decide for your self. Reading medical news from Bama hospital - most cases in hospital hav not been fully vaxed (around 95%) - most deaths - no vax - close to 100% - what do you know - that matches info just posted by PCP
Then from simple stand point - look at what is most of professional organizations and sports authorities doing - getting vax - Bama football at 95% - Saban must be an idiot right?
Maybe we Alabamians are the shear minority geniuses not getting it 🤣🤣
Usually I would not say crap - but when there so much dookie being spread in here against - I will say something if i believe in the other direction. None of us hav all the answers w this virus- it has to b your decision - but I would b dang if I would hate on it when I did not know fully and some dude in here dies because of it. I know dudes who died from it - don’t know any who got vaxed and did. And I hav heard even if u had virus - u got six month immunity - also heard 9 months - also heard 12 months. So we really don’t know that either
I Ain’t grown that 3rd tit yet either - I might - but most medical experts say if a side effect were going to happen - it would happen in first 3-4 weeks - I going on 3 months now and know ton folks close to me vax - no 3rd tits there either - matches what PCP just posted
Good luck w your decisions
Great post PCP
Think I May jump off the Vax threads now - lot of them r straight dookie Thanks, but understand that all I did was post a text that was forwarded to me, written by someone I don't know very well. I don't doubt that she has seen 200 people die from covid. She works on the floor of a big hospital where all the covid patients get sent, and has been working there since it started. So if anyone in that hospital died from covid in the past 18 months she probably had some contact with them. I don't doubt her story, but it's just her perceptions based on her experience. Dealing with covid patients every working day for 18 months has no doubt given her a different perspective from someone like me who is rarely in contact with anyone who has it. I haven't posted anything about my personal thoughts regarding covid in a good while, so I might as well give it a try. My thoughts are based on my perspective, which is different from that of anyone else. I grew up watching Roy Rogers on TV every afternoon, and he taught me that the world is made up of the Good Guys who wear white hats, and the Bad Guys who wear black hats. Maybe I eventually realized the world is a little more complicated than that, but I don't think there is any question that I still tend to view the world through my Roy Rogers filter. So when covid started, I thought it was pretty obvious that the CCP was the primary Bad Guy. They benefitted too much from it for it to just be a coincidence, and their cover story regarding bats made no sense. As time went on, I reached the conclusion that there were probably people in our own country and own government who were also wearing the Black Hats. And their plan worked; they got rid of their biggest enemy and got their own guy elected president. I don't think we can imagine how much control the CCP now has over the USA government. Now obviously, Trump was the guy wearing the White Hat and representing Roy Rogers in the story. He certainly had a lot of flaws as president, but I honestly believe that he wanted good things for America, and supported concepts like Freedom and Liberty far more than his opponents. One of the things the media kept emphasizing in the early days of covid was that it would be many years before a vaccine was possible. I have heard the FDA cursed for decades because of the endless red tape they put on the drug companies, causing us to have to pay far more for our medicine than the rest of the world. I always thought government red tape was something that conservatives wanted to limit, not just in medicine, but in every aspect of our lives. So it wasn't surprising to me that Trump vowed to cut the red tape and get a vaccine available before the end of the year. The Left and the media ridiculed him for saying this, insisting that it was impossible. Well, he got it done, though it was kept quiet until after the election. Now of course the vaccine doesn't have the normal FDA approval; Trump cut out all the nonsense usually associated with a new vaccine or drug so that the world could get back to something resembling normal. And he absolutely had to indemnify the drug companies or there is no way in the world they could have released the vaccines. If he hadn't, someone in Lowndes county would have died and a jury there would have given a $100 trillion judgement against the company. This is the Trump vaccine. It would not exist without him. If Biden had been president when it started we would still be living under lockdown conditions, and the promise of a vaccine would still be years away. "Essential" workers would be working, but everyone else would be on government assistance for years to come. America as we know it would be destroyed; it probably is anyway, but I refuse to believe that Trump was in on it I don't know whether the various vaccines will prove to have unexpected side effects or not, but I do think that Trump is the guy wearing the White Hat. I believe that there are indeed all sorts of conspiracies against America in play right now, but I can't see the Trump vaccine being one of them. I am not encouraging anyone to take it, but I do encourage everyone to drop the idea that it was intentionally created to harm us. Very well put and my thoughts exactly
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First my disclaimer: I don’t care if you get/got the shot. I don’t care if you wear a mask. I do believe the government should NOT mandate either. We’ve learned enough to know that if you’re gonna get it, then you’re just gonna get it. I vote republican. I love Jesus with all my heart, soul, and mind. I hunt over corn occasionally, but not at night and not for turkeys. Figured I needed to throw that out there before I get roasted.
I believe this virus came from a lab in China. No doubt. We do research here in the states using viruses as well. I don’t trust China and would not doubt that this virus was being modified to attack specific targeted cells in people. Researches here use a virus similar to the HIV virus in cancer treatment. The virus is modified by using a viral vector to carry Chimeric Antigen Receptor T-Cell. The viral vector is able to replicate inside the person therefore replicating the T-Cell. This isn’t your average T-Cell. This T-Cell has been modified to recognize a patient’s specific type of leukemia or lymphoma and only attack it and not the good cells. There are side effects. The side effects can be mild, like a fever, or bad, like kidney failure, respiratory failure, high fevers, neurotoxicity(basically Cytokine Release Syndrome or CRS). CRS is what is seen in most of the very sick Covid patients. This is due to the body’s response to the the virus and over reacting. I say all this to say, if this specific Corona Virus was being used as a vector to transport and replicate something, what was the something? I don’t believe it was gonna be good. I believe it was gonna be a 1…….2 punch type of infection. The leaking of the covid-19 may be a blessing in disguise. Just my thoughts. Yeah, what he said and what PCP said also.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Well all this Covid talk with the delta variant sure has stopped people from talking about the election fraud.
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The vax works like the big pen, natural immunity like the small pen.
Both might keep you safe from poachers, but neither will keep you safe from the people with deep pockets.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson
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That PCola Dr guy said he wanted the virus to kill a buncha people who think differently than him. Just in case ya'll forgot that several pages ago. Been thinking about that all weekend. A Dr. who WANTS people to die....and rid the world of their stupidity.
Wow... and ya'll wonder why there are alot of people out there who don't trust Doctors
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That PCola Dr guy said he wanted the virus to kill a buncha people who think differently than him. Just in case ya'll forgot that several pages ago. Been thinking about that all weekend. A Dr. who WANTS people to die....and rid the world of their stupidity.
Wow... and ya'll wonder why there are alot of people out there who don't trust Doctors
You sure don't mind taking something out of context do you?
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That PCola Dr guy said he wanted the virus to kill a buncha people who think differently than him. Just in case ya'll forgot that several pages ago. Been thinking about that all weekend. A Dr. who WANTS people to die....and rid the world of their stupidity.
Wow... and ya'll wonder why there are alot of people out there who don't trust Doctors
You sure don't mind taking something out of context do you? Ive heard alot of people say "just wait till its somebody in your family, youll change your mind then". Pretty sure alot of mask wearers and now vaccinators are sitting around waiting on something bad to happen so they can shake their finger at somebody and say "i told you so". Yes, its happening. Been seeing it for a year and a half now.
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You should be thanking me and everyone else who has wilfully taken the vaccine because we are your only firewall to a complete medical system collapse in the face of this delta variant. At least we won't be clogging up the hospitals like the unvaccinated will be. Thank you for being a test subject for those of us who chose not to believe in an experimental, gene therapy, biological agent, sometimes referred to as a vaccine.
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I havent followed the entire thread and may have already been touched upon, But if Biden really thinks vax is the way to go the first thing he needs to do is fire Faulcery and replace with someone that is trusted. Faucery has lost the trust and confidence of many Americans. I conservative voice would be best for the country because the left is all in on vax. The right is who they need to convince. I actually dont even want to hear what Faulcery has to say.
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That PCola Dr guy said he wanted the virus to kill a buncha people who think differently than him. Just in case ya'll forgot that several pages ago. Been thinking about that all weekend. A Dr. who WANTS people to die....and rid the world of their stupidity.
Wow... and ya'll wonder why there are alot of people out there who don't trust Doctors
You sure don't mind taking something out of context do you? I didn't take it out of context... go back and read what the man said. He even prefaced it with "I know this is an inappropriate comment" Granted, he might not have meant he ACTUALLY wanted people to die but he did say it. Might not have been what he meant, but that is what he said.....the mouth speaks out of the abundance of the heart, man. No different than loosing your temper and saying something you can't take back
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Maybe natural selection is at play and the virus will rid some of this ignorance from the gene pool. I'm sorry that is an inappropriate statement but it is so frustrating to see some of the BS and backward thinking. It appears to me his comment is pretty insulting and and tends to indicate that he views himself as a superiod thinker to those of us who choose not to believe in vaccine.
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(snip) - I believe this virus came from a lab in China. No doubt. (snip) ... The leaking of the covid-19 may be a blessing in disguise. Just my thoughts. as time goes along, i'm getting onboard w/this statement ... my GF is a nurse & i've said ALL along - "this thing ain't acting 'right' for a coronavirus"
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Maybe natural selection is at play and the virus will rid some of this ignorance from the gene pool. I'm sorry that is an inappropriate statement but it is so frustrating to see some of the BS and backward thinking. It appears to me his comment is pretty insulting and and tends to indicate that he views himself as a superiod thinker to those of us who choose not to believe in vaccine. I am held accountable for the things that come out of my mouth at home, at work, in my marriage, with friends/family. I expect anyone else to be the same. Anyone who wants to let this slide feel free to do so, but I find it pretty damn twisted. If you're someone in a position to help people(doctor) you're held to an even higher standard. Crosses the line in my book.
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This is really simple..... The death rate isn't actually high enough to force anyone to do anything. That's the reality of this situation. It might kill you, it might kill me - but statistically speaking this is just NOT lethal enough to justify anything further.
What should worry everyone is what they were actually up to in that lab and looking at the world wide response.... we are in deep deep cow patties. Another couple weeks and we would have had food shortages and anarchy IMO. These Democrats would shoot each other over a McDonalds burger they stole from work... I will guarantee you can bet on that.
This type of weapon is more dangerous than a nuclear bomb IMO.
No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
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