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So the uptick in Covid cases from the delta variant is real. The NEJM on July 21 published data that vaccinated individuals with 2 doses of moderna or Pfizer have 88% protection against the virus. The delta variant is much more contagious than the original alpha variant and thus will spread through communities and have a higher burn rate because of this. Vaccinated people potentially can get the delta variant yes, but their course of illness is likely to be less severe.
I’ve seen several people in their 30’s die from Covid. Granted all were either hypertensive, diabetics, obese or had renal disease. I’ve also seen several in their 30’s and 40’s without known comorbidties wind up in the hospital for periods of time due to Covid. It’s a real disease guys, don’t know how else to tell y’all. Back in March of 2020 I saw and intubated the first known Covid patient in west Alabama. Yes age, obesity, htn, diabetes, cancer, esrd are all risk factors with Covid. But I’m 40, have no health issues, have had the vaccine and I personally don’t want Covid. Nobody is doubting its "realness" and the fact that vaccine pushers feel the need to keep saying "its real guys" is quite offensive to me. I had it, i know its real. And for every publication that states this fact, i can show you one that says that fact, for every article that states this statistic, i can show you one that states that statistic, for every nurse or doctor who says this, i can show you one who says that. At this point nobody knows what the truth is, except they see it with their own eyes, and these days, even that is suspect. But one thing i believe we can all agree on is covid is real so i dont think there will be any further need in pointing that out.
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How do you know the uptick isn't from the roughly 1.2 million illegal immigrants that have crossed the border and been distributed throughout the country on the down low?
None of them are vaccinated..
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You know, im no mathmatician, but i would think since there are twice as many unvaccinated people in Alabama there would be twice as many unvaccinated people getting the covid right now.
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How do you know the uptick isn't from the roughly 1.2 million illegal immigrants that have crossed the border and been distributed throughout the country on the down low?
None of them are vaccinated..
And people really think that the federal government cares about them by offering a free, untested vaccine. Meanwhile millions of unvaccinated illegals are infiltrating our country so they can vote democrat someday. And the same federal government that wants us all vaccinated and is shaming all to do so isn’t stopping them. Makes sense don’t it.
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New England Journal of Medicine was a reputable journal for 200+ years but no longer. They became overtly political last year urging the ouster of Trump and now pushing liberal "woke" agendas now! Same for the AMA, American Medical Association. They have lost whatever credibility they once had! https://thespectator.info/2021/07/18/medical-journal-urges-doctors-to-practice-politics/
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How do you know the uptick isn't from the roughly 1.2 million illegal immigrants that have crossed the border and been distributed throughout the country on the down low?
None of them are vaccinated..
And people really think that the federal government cares about them by offering a free, untested vaccine. Meanwhile millions of unvaccinated illegals are infiltrating our country so they can vote democrat someday. And the same federal government that wants us all vaccinated and is shaming all to do so isn’t stopping them. Makes sense don’t it. It’s the same reason the large cities are loosening crime prosecutions. They’re perpetuating a crisis to bring in strong arm legislation.
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” ― Ronald Reagan
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I have a question for the physicians and those in the medical field. Have ya'll seen any certain blood types that are less likely to contract coronavirus?
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The whole point of this vaccination deal is to keep our hospital systems from being overwhelmed. If you get a vaccine you won't end up in the hospital clogging up our system and overworking our medical workers who have enough heart attacks and emergency situations to deal with as is.
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The whole point of this vaccination deal is to keep our hospital systems from being overwhelmed. If you get a vaccine you won't end up in the hospital clogging up our system and overworking our medical workers who have enough heart attacks and emergency situations to deal with as is. I dont really think you understand what a vaccine is. Unless something has changed since third grade science class, vaccines were not invented to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed. Maybe people would be more accepting if they would just quit calling it a vaccine, since its not a vaccine. When you put a lie right there in the name, its hard to trust it after that.
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^^^^^^ You sure love to insert your expertise on this subject.
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^^^^^^ You sure love to insert your expertise on this subject. Yes i do. I thought i would see more of you in this thread. Youre a vaccine pusher aint you?
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"It was the needle, and the spoon And a trip to the Moon Take me away Take me away "
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The uptick is because of former vice president joe bidens administrations policy regarding illegal aliens. We are averaging 180,000 border crossers EVERY month. (2+ million a year).
None of these persons are tested for anything and they are then shipped all over the country. Not just to one place so the diseases spread in a way that the government "cant explain, so we need more lock downs, masks, and vaccines".
And the illegals arent just bringing covid. They are bringing all sorts of third world diseases. TB, polio, etc. Hell even dengue fever has been reported. Just wait till one of the africans (who enter via Mexico) bring Ebola.
I love my country, but don't trust my government.
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^^^^^^ You sure love to insert your expertise on this subject. Yes i do. I thought i would see more of you in this thread. Youre a vaccine pusher aint you? Nope. I got the shot but don't give a shucks what others do.
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The whole point of this vaccination deal is to keep our hospital systems from being overwhelmed. If you get a vaccine you won't end up in the hospital clogging up our system and overworking our medical workers who have enough heart attacks and emergency situations to deal with as is. don’t know how Alabama is because I don’t work local but where I’ve been….our volume has been down drastically. It’s on the upswing but it’s not covid coming back into the ER. yeah we have increase in cases but it’s all the other stuff. Our volume in the ED has been down since the lockdowns until the last 4-6 weeks.
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[/quote]ED has been down since the lockdowns until the last 4-6 weeks.[quote] So folks are saving money on Viagra. That’s a good side effect.  I know he meant an R not D but it’s funny . 
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^^^^^^ You sure love to insert your expertise on this subject. Yes i do. I thought i would see more of you in this thread. Youre a vaccine pusher aint you? Nope. I got the shot but don't give a shucks what others do. Im liking you more all the time
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The uptick is because of former vice president joe bidens administrations policy regarding illegal aliens. We are averaging 180,000 border crossers EVERY month. (2+ million a year).
None of these persons are tested for anything and they are then shipped all over the country. Not just to one place so the diseases spread in a way that the government "cant explain, so we need more lock downs, masks, and vaccines".
And the illegals arent just bringing covid. They are bringing all sorts of third world diseases. TB, polio, etc. Hell even dengue fever has been reported. Just wait till one of the africans (who enter via Mexico) bring Ebola. Yeah and that doesn't fit the narrative. It's all us "anti-vaxxers" that are the problem. We are all just in for a life of pain according to Gov Mee Maw........
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ED has been down since the lockdowns until the last 4-6 weeks. So folks are saving money on Viagra. That’s a good side effect.  I know he meant an R not D but it’s funny .  Nope. He meant ED. You can’t use ER because it’s no longer the emergency room, it’s a whole Department due to all of the people using it as their primary care doctor.
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12,313 the CDC can’t explain why the death numbers from the vaccine doubled in a week. If you want to take it hammer down. It’s your choice and your business. At the present time I’m not maybe a year or 2 down the road I’ll feel different. Right now my body has been keeping up a good fight dealing with other issues. I don’t need to ask more of it.
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