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Originally Posted by Phil_Army
The #1 problem in America: men not stepping up and leading their families the way God intended them to. That's where everything begins...


There is the problem....

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The #1 problem in America: men not stepping up and leading their families the way God intended them to. That's where everything begins...


Truth.


Indeed.

But in the USA 75% of black children are born out of wedlock, 50% of Hispanic children are born out of wedlock and 30% of white children are born out of wedlock. There are no fathers there. Not real ones.

And the divorce rate is 50%.


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I'm 50 and my generation couldn't hold a candle to my fathers generation. Him and most of his buddies / family literally worked themselves to death. But you're right , the work ethic in this country ( except for the Mexicans ) is in the toilet.


For every Mexi CAN we import we should export an Ameri WON'T.

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The American economy has changed and the worker changed with it. Social Security, Food Stamps, Free Lunches, Pell Grants... all that is nothing new. What happened is the middle-class son realized there are easier ways to make a living.

My brother-in-law is 34 and the hardest working man I know. He is a welder and travels all over the South on projects. He makes shucks... I think $35 an hour. That's $72K a year. Try to raise a family on $72k a year... if your wife ain't working you are broke.

On the flip side, a project I was on a couple years ago.. they were paying graduates from Alabama and Auburn $65 an hour if they had computer programming degrees.





I guess he wasn't getting any overtime, then. The welders I know all make bank! But, $35/hour is a dang good wage in our part of the state, too. I guess it depends on your perspective and how lavish a lifestyle one wants to live.


I was thinking the same thing. He ain't working that hard as a welder if he's only working 40 hours a week travelling. There's also per diem. You can about double that $72K as a welder in the oilfield if you're a decent welder.

I'd never go on the road welding if I were only getting 40 hours/wk.


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I have seen way to many men of my age raise sons who are pussies! Can’t handle anything, no work ethic, never had chores, just sat around playing video games. Now they are out of college and do not know what to do or how to fend for themselves. I was hard on my boys but easy on them compared to my father. The Mexican culture shames those of us InThe U.S. Hard working people there!


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Originally Posted by WmHunter
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The #1 problem in America: men not stepping up and leading their families the way God intended them to. That's where everything begins...


Truth.


Indeed.

But in the USA 75% of black children are born out of wedlock, 50% of Hispanic children are born out of wedlock and 30% of white children are born out of wedlock. There are no fathers there. Not real ones.

And the divorce rate is 50%.


My wife's a second grade teacher. In her last class of about 17-18 kids.... 3 or 4 had both mother and father at home. Sometimes divorce isn't a choice and I'm not bashing anyone that's in a situation they never asked for, but those numbers are not uncommon and this is a major factor as to why we are in the condition we are in as a nation.

Another sad stat is that the divorce rate inside of the church ( people who identify as Christians ) is no different than the one in the world. That just shouldn't be that way.

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What y'all are saying about the Mezzicans is true as long as they are living under the conditions that make work a necessity. They will work 90% of 20 year old white kids right off a job site.

However, make no mistake here. Why would Biden want them so bad other than votes...... When given the opportunity:

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Originally Posted by BPI

Another sad stat is that the divorce rate inside of the church ( people who identify as Christians ) is no different than the one in the world. That just shouldn't be that way.


Many folks who "identify as Christians" nowadays couldn't tell you what the inside of a church looks like.




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Women these days don’t want a man that leads..... they want a yes man. One that does whatever they ask. They will leave a hard working godly man for a jobless dope head. The kids are paying the price.

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I dont think it's ever been a generational thing, it's how you are raised.


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Originally Posted by bama_earl


My brother-in-law is 34 and the hardest working man I know. He is a welder and travels all over the South on projects. He makes shucks... I think $35 an hour. That's $72K a year. Try to raise a family on $72k a year... if your wife ain't working you are broke.


If he's traveling all over the south on projects, he should be getting per diem also. If he runs his own welding rig (truck, welding machine, etc) he should be getting an hourly rate for them also. That's where the $ is made. I deal with welders all the time and don't know of too many that's going to run the roads and be gone from home all the time for only $35/hr

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Originally Posted by hunterbuck
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Another sad stat is that the divorce rate inside of the church ( people who identify as Christians ) is no different than the one in the world. That just shouldn't be that way.


Many folks who "identify as Christians" nowadays couldn't tell you what the inside of a church looks like.




Mmmm hmmmm....just as many inside that church playing “I’m a Christian” instead of living Christ-like.


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Originally Posted by BCLC
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Another sad stat is that the divorce rate inside of the church ( people who identify as Christians ) is no different than the one in the world. That just shouldn't be that way.


Many folks who "identify as Christians" nowadays couldn't tell you what the inside of a church looks like.




Mmmm hmmmm....just as many inside that church playing “I’m a Christian” instead of living Christ-like.


Yep...that's the excuse that LOTS of folks use for not attending church.



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Originally Posted by hammerhead
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My brother-in-law is 34 and the hardest working man I know. He is a welder and travels all over the South on projects. He makes shucks... I think $35 an hour. That's $72K a year. Try to raise a family on $72k a year... if your wife ain't working you are broke.


If he's traveling all over the south on projects, he should be getting per diem also. If he runs his own welding rig (truck, welding machine, etc) he should be getting an hourly rate for them also. That's where the $ is made. I deal with welders all the time and don't know of too many that's going to run the roads and be gone from home all the time for only $35/hr


He gets per diem, company truck, and works a ton of overtime. So he does really well but has no life. His base salary is still $72K. No one wants to work these days, you are correct. No one wants to work 65 hours a week in a trade to make $35 turn into 120k.

My son is a nurse and he works 3 days a week and makes bank! He has a 4 year degree in nursing. He worked on a lawn service from 15 to 22 and he said nope... I ain't going to work this hard ever again. Leaning a trade is great if you turn that trade into a small business where you pay other people to be your worker. But if you are out there slaving in the Alabama heat for someone else....it's not worth it.

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Originally Posted by doecommander
Women these days don’t want a man that leads..... they want a yes man. One that does whatever they ask. They will leave a hard working godly man for a jobless dope head. The kids are paying the price.



I also agree with u Doe. My generation didn't ask for permission to go hunting when we had a wife at home with 2 kids under 5. These young dads now have to get permission and check-in every hour. But it's also the man's fault. We want to be King of the House but we don't want to act like a King. If you want to be the king, then you need to pay all the bills. Don't depend on your wife to help pay the bills then want to be the King.... you aint.

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Laziness and stupidity are running rampant in America. Sadly, death is the only known cure.

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Originally Posted by Dkhargroves
I dont think it's ever been a generational thing, it's how you are raised.

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I kinda hated it myself . Once you gauge and set up ever thing and you set there and it's one part after another.

I hated it . Would set up machine and 1000's of parts later you're bored . Lol

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