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Booner
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The guys that kill 15 birds a year poaching on other clubs land and claim they’re in TN when in AL can really feel good about themselves when the 3 bird limit ever does pass. 😳🍿🍿🍿🍿
The Spirit of God has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life.
Job 33:4
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If you want to always win, never play anyone better than you!
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Great post 257 and they are the only ones impressed 😀
I only killed a turkey out of ground blind few times - I hav hunted that property w out blind most of time - I set it up for my son so he would not get busted - I would rather not sit in blind - but it did not feel like any less of an achievement - blind can also limit u and if you are married to hunting a decoy it can limit you as well - sometime you may need to belly crawl on one - pros and cons to either way
But somebody using blind r not I could care less - and I am not more impressed if someone does not use decoy r blind - and if the state takes away decoys - who gives a crap - most of my career has been w out decoy anyway - you can set up to where they hav to look for u a little if u don’t sit out in wide open if U hav any timber
Hunt the wind - leave it better than you found it - love your neighbor as you love your self
We need prayer for our country now more than ever
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14 point
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Y’all getting off track. Stop acting like we NEED to cut harvest. Kinda the point of this whole thread. It’s a lazy idea for the powers that be, to lower a limit and delay the season, like other states have done with virtually zero success.
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14 point
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I’m all for a kid killing a turkey out of a tent, using decoys, or even over a big pile of corn. It’s the adults that do the same that screw everything up
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I hunted out of a ground blind in south texas a few years ago. The wind and cold was unexpected and I was freezing. I was glad to find it. As cold as I've ever been turkey hunting.
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What every turkey hunter needs to do is take all their birds to the local turkey processor so every bird can be counted
Then things like bird limits and season opening changes won’t happen
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself
The older I get the better I used to be
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What every turkey hunter needs to do is take all their birds to the local turkey processor so every bird can be counted
I saw a 100% serious Facebook post the other day....Fellow asking about if any deer processors took turkey.
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Daughter is 23 and has never set foot in a blind ![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/McF24Z8V/mccanna2.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/DSwNTV6g/IMG-2044.jpg)
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine
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What every turkey hunter needs to do is take all their birds to the local turkey processor so every bird can be counted
I saw a 100% serious Facebook post the other day....Fellow asking about if any deer processors took turkey. The brainwashing is taking place. "We must check our turkeys at the deer processors to comply and be wholesome parts of society!"
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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I’m sure it’s been mentioned but when’s the meeting date?
Allfrey Land & Game
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I’m sure it’s been mentioned but when’s the meeting date? 3/6/2021
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Sent emails as I can't miss my wedding day to go...Let's fight this!! I refuse to let these guys ruin our turkey hunting over theoretical data.
2017 Team Aldeer Turkey Contest Champion
2018 Team Aldeer Turkey Contest Champion
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https://www.outdooralabama.com/site...0addresses%20rev%2010-9-2020%20w-map.pdfGobbler had fantastic points to help build a strong email...I ended with if the medical field used hypotheticals and theories to treat patients, people would be dying left and right. Do not kill our turkey hunting with the same logic. This is a pivotal moment in the future of turkey hunting for our kids and grandchildren.
2017 Team Aldeer Turkey Contest Champion
2018 Team Aldeer Turkey Contest Champion
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https://www.outdooralabama.com/site...0addresses%20rev%2010-9-2020%20w-map.pdfGobbler had fantastic points to help build a strong email...I ended with if the medical field used hypotheticals and theories to treat patients, people would be dying left and right. Do not kill our turkey hunting with the same logic. This is a pivotal moment in the future of turkey hunting for our kids and grandchildren. But Chucky knows best!!
Carrying a gun isn't comfortable; but at times it is comforting
"Cause the cause for the pause you think you see is really concentration on the steel” NonPoint
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Anyone care to post a sample letter/email you wrote?
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If you are considering writing a letter, now is the time, near the meeting so it is fresh on their minds.
Here are some points that are probably salient.
Turkey populations fluctuate normally with weather and predator populations and they have been very (possibly unnaturally) high after restocking
Are the "indicators" of "poults per hen" truly indicative of reproduction and or population trends? Mostly collected on public land. Not scientifically significant
Alabama's "wild turkey report" reproduction data shows NO decline over the last 10 years.
According to the hunter survey hunter harvest trends have been relatively flat until they changed survey techniques in 2017 when it went down.
According to the hunter survey days per kill trends have been relatively flat until they changed survey techniques in 2017 when it went WAY up.
Other states with later start dates, shorter seasons and lower limits are seeing the same perceived declines
Hatching eggs and raising poults is the only way to increase populations and lowering limits does nothing to help this.
Weather and predators controls reproduction
If early harvest of "dominant gobblers" is a real concern, ban decoys and fans
Is baiting increasing nest predator and pig populations thereby decreasing turkey nest success?
Is feeding corn leading to higher mortality due to aflotoxin to which turkeys are HIGHLY susceptible?
Does the dominant gobbler theory have any grounds in reality in a wild population of turkeys? We truly don't know.
We do know that multiple males are often represented in turkey clutches
Should turkey nesting season be 30 days or 100 days - we don't know but other ground nesting birds that renest often opt for the longer season to avoid weather event issues
We don't know how many turkeys are in Alabama......
We ought to change the season and limits on public lands and study the effects to see it it makes a difference
We ought to form a committee to look at the available data and make recommendations
Just some thoughts Thanks. Just saw this after I asked someone to post a letter. This is what I was looking for. Made a post on Facebook tagging a lot of hunting friends to let them know about the upcoming meeting. Will sit down and form a letter to send in. Maybe we can flood their emails and they will decide not to make the changes.
Last edited by turkey_killer; 02/24/21 10:37 PM.
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I’m all for a kid killing a turkey out of a tent, using decoys, or even over a big pile of corn. It’s the adults that do the same that screw everything up So kids never grow up doing what they were taught? Corn, poaching, bag limit. I Want my kid to win too, but he ain’t gonna do anything wrong to do it.
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They are hearing us. I had one guy email me back agreeing that nest predators are the main cause and I have another guy from that list wanting to call me and discuss my points. The more concern in emails and letters the better. Let’s fight this.
2017 Team Aldeer Turkey Contest Champion
2018 Team Aldeer Turkey Contest Champion
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Kids need to learn that you have to learn to hunt in order to have success. Everyone wants that day their kid gets their first, I get it. Bur when all emphasis is placed on a kill and little on the experience or the experience dumbed down to the point anyone can have success, then the art of hunting is completely lost for all generators to come.
Keep it a 5 bird limit and bring back the art of hunting to control the population. IMHO.
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