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With the first Conservation Advisory Board meeting scheduled in two months, the controversial Draw-Loc is highlighted in a MPR story: http://blog.al.com/south-alabama-outdoors/2009/12/jerry_goffs_boxing-related_sho.html This has been presented to the CAB for consideration in the past. If you want to shoot a vertical crossbow, why not just shoot a regular crossbow instead of hybridizing a compound?
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Why would anyone care? I would like to shoot one and see if I could use it. With one arm not sure how I would pull the trigger though.
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Originally posted by Clem:
This has been presented to the CAB for consideration in the past.
Yeah, like about 100 times. The Draw-loc dude is about as annoying as the "slapchop" dude. :rolleyes: But really, I don't see why anyone would use the dang thing. I don't want my bow held at full draw for hours at a time. Maybe it won't hurt a thing at all, but I still don't like the idea.
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Booner
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It is past due, should have been legalized with the crossbow. 
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I don't see why hammers ain't legal.....
how many deer are going to be killed with em?? So who cares??
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muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Why shoot a compound with this thing if you can do the same with a crossbow that is designed and built for this type of shooting?
If you can't draw and shoot a compound without needing a locking brace, don't shoot it. Use a crossbow.
I think anvils should be legalized, too. If you can drop an anvil on a deer's head from a stand, that's a pretty good feat. Maybe truck tire rims, too, on a swinging tripwire.
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I can use one anyway, started to get me one of them dudes a couple years ago, but never did it.
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You can use one of what? The Draw-Loc?
They're prohibited in Alabama on compound bows aren't they? There is no "doctor's note" exemption or anything like that, either.
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Freak of Nature
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I say legalize em, it won't make any difference. Anvils, yeah, make em legal, but only from the ground  no tree stands. That would be cheating Tire rims???, nah, PETA would pitch a fit!!!!  and we don't want them upset at us..do we??? :rolleyes: troy, lookin fer a light,fast anvil
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muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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you forgot shovels and chainsaws
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Ned, no prob with either as long as pick on grown , free runnin, deer. Never happen without some kind of silencer on that chainsaw either 
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proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Can you legally rig a Coat Hanger as a snare?
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yes, law is 9-11-7345 but the wire has to be hand held. Ought to work.
troy
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Originally posted by BDhunts: Can you legally rig a Coat Hanger as a snare? if you can get bass pro to give it to you 
RECESSION IS WHEN YOUR NEIGHBOR LOSES HIS JOB.
DEPRESSION IS WHEN YOU LOSE YOUR JOB.
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it's a violation of the law to use BP coathangers. They don't meet specs....
troy
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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RECESSION IS WHEN YOUR NEIGHBOR LOSES HIS JOB.
DEPRESSION IS WHEN YOU LOSE YOUR JOB.
RECOVERY IS WHEN OBAMA LOSES HIS.
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Clem, I still have my disabled crossbow permit and was advised it covered drawlocks, checked into it last year. I never tried one or even looked at one of them except the web site. Probably will never get one anyway, I would like to try to kill a turkey with an arrow... and that is what got me to ask if I could use my crossbow. I have the letter around here somewhere that explained that prior to crossbows being legal for everyone the disabled permit did allow me to use the xbow during the spring, however that was ended with the new law. They advised to get a drawlock as that was still covered under the old permit. Really I have a hard time getting them killed with a shotgun anyway. I did enjoy shooting and hunting with a compound before I went and barehanded 4600 volts way back in 1990. I would like to see if I could shoot the thing and see if I could actually do it. I am not sure I could even hold the drawlock with my left hand since I lost 80% of the strength in my left shoulder due to the electrical accident. "Oh hell boys" a feller sometimes dreams up all kinds of stupid things to do and try, esp after you can't do it anymore.
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I sent Draw-Loc an email asking them which states and how many states it is legal in for the average hunter. Will let you know what they say.
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I still have my disabled crossbow permit and was advised it covered drawlocks
Interesting. I never knew that, and don't know if the general public knew that.
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With crossbows being legal here, it would make sense that the Draw-Loc would fall under a crossbow style of law. Not sure why it wasn't part of the initial change in the law. Good article about Alabama leaving the Draw-Loc out of the legalization for crossbows. Jerry Goff\'s boxing-related shoulder injury launches outdoors career On September 9, 2004, the Alabama Legislative Council approved changes to the state�s hunting laws that legalize the use of crossbows, turkey decoys and the use of scopes on muzzleloaders. The three proposals were recommended by the Conservation Advisory Board in May. The Alabama Department of Conservation and Natural Resources held a public hearing regarding the issues in August and received more than 3,000 comments regarding the proposed regulations. An analysis of those comments indicates that 78 percent favor the crossbow regulation, 86 percent favor the muzzleloader regulation, and 77 percent favor the turkey decoy regulation. Conservation Commissioner Barnett Lawley says these regulations allow new choices for hunters. �They are options and not mandates,� he said. �That is why the overwhelming majority of hunters favor all the regulations so enthusiastically. Public input indicates that a vocal minority opposes the crossbow and turkey decoy regulations, and virtually none oppose the muzzleloader regulations.� Archery deer season opens October 15 in Alabama, with gun season opening November 20 and closing on January 31, 2005. Crossbows will be legal for the entire season. Turkey season in most counties opens March 15, 2005 and ends April 30, 2005. The use of non-mechanical turkey decoys is now legal during the spring season. Scopes on muzzleloaders is now also legal. Alabama has a special muzzleloader season that runs from November 15-19, just prior to the regular gun season. For more information on Alabama�s hunting laws visit www. outdooralabama.com.
Michael Helgeson Archery Store Owner (Won't mention which one, don't want this seen as advertisement) Mathews, Sure-Loc, First String, Easton, Muzzy, Rage, Carbon Express
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