Like most of you on here have said. When i was younger there was no such thing as a harness to me. I climbed as high as i could every time out. Some times i climbed until my pullup rope was swinging in the wind. Never bothered me. After kids and life and some years i just started feeling a little less bullet proof. What really did it was when i bought my son his Summit and he was practicing in the backyard. I couldnt bare to watch without him buckled in. That changed me and my views forever. Never get in one without a harness anymore. And that Summit will go as high as I am comfortable. I dont climb as much as i used to or near as much as i should, but these stands are much more realiable and safe than the Warren and Sweat stands i grew up in. Nothing quite as satisfying as hunting from a climber and being able to close the deal on a good buck, with a bow or rifle.