yea it is just bad. i mean if there wasn't a whole lot of people hunting it you might still do some good. i mean people are still killing deer, but it's nothing like it use to be. i remember when i first hunted it and they planted all the fields in corn and soybeans. omgoodness at the deer. now, it's like a duck refuge. they take of the ducks there. don't get me wrong that is fine, but the deer hunting has gone WAY downhill. i still hunt it but not as much. have to get there hr before daylight to shine folks off, then you get to your tree and find bottles or wrappers from someone else. even going by boat is hard to do now with more people doing that.