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So if you get the vaccine, do you still have to wear the mask? Of course you do.
I understand there are at least two more different strands of COVID in the US now. Does this current vaccine work with them?
Is there going to be a vaccine for every strand that develops?

What y'all know?

Ain't taking no test and ain't taking no shot

At best this vaccine “protects” you for up to 5-6 months. That’s when the antibodies appear to decline rapidly in current studies. The same is true for those who’ve merely contracted the virus, regardless of wether they showed symptoms. That’s way more people than the CDC or WHO even want to admit. Also, you can still carry and replicate the virus while you’ve been vaccinated and spread it to others. So, yes, you should still wear a mask correctly and it might help someone else.

I had antibodies for a little over 5 months after I had the Wuhan flu. I imagine that Mdees is correct as far as post-vaccination protection is concerned. This will be a continuous cycle of guesswork as the virus mutates, just like with other influenza virus vaccinations. Anyone who claims they are going to eliminate COVID is full of chit. I have seen some "data" regarding the effectiveness of wearing a mask. Not sure I buy it unless everyone is going to be forced to were an N-95.

I just read this on UAB's website. It states [The vaccine produces a strong immune response and lasts at least four months]. So is everyone going to go get the shot every 4 months, 5 months, twice a year. How do you know when your immune system isn't recognizing COVID virus and you need another vaccination shot, when you get the darn virus? Seems sort of sketchy.

I was dead set against it until I talked with a dr I've trusted for years. I leaning towards it now.

getting old, how did you know after 5 months you didn't have the anti-bodies any more if you don't mind me asking?

Got tested for the antibodies at scheduled physical exam. I was going to donate blood if I still had them.

You’ll never get the truth out of these drug companies. Too much money on the line. I’m not taking it and will not wear a mask. My position on this has not changed since they politicized it. If I die then I’ll finally get some sleep. I’d like to know what bastard started the whole “shame game” if you don’t wear the face diaper. Bunch of drama, BS and control. I have absolutely no problem if someone else wants to wear the thing but leave me the hell alone.

I'll take a shot every week if it keeps me from going through what I did in Nov.

Yea, my mother-n-law and father-n-law just got over it and it was pretty bad for father-n-law.
I’ve been reading a lot about the vaccine and how they work. It’s really a bad situation because no one can count on anything they read to be true or political lies anymore. The CDC is reporting that either in the US and UK or just one of them (I don’t remember) 1/3 of people that had COVID ending up developing other terminal issues and died. I don’t know how I feel about getting the vaccine that apparently may only last 4 months but getting COVID really sux too. Also, when getting vaccines, several inject approximately 25ml of mercury and a small amount of formaldehyde in your body. The mercury is used as a preservative to fight bacteria in the vials of vaccines. Mercury is toxic to bodily organs and central nervous system. The WHO and EPA claims as little as 20 micrograms/m3 of elemental Hg in the air can kill your kidneys. I really don’t know what to believe anymore after seeing how politicians and media push narratives and lie. It’s freaking sad.

I’m not sure what I’m gonna do yet. I’m 🤔 and trying to get as much info as I can.

I carried my dad “76” to TN for his first shot. I’m not sure why Alabama is a month behind.

I do not, personally. I’ve seen reports from the UK where the efficacy has been studied which found those who developed antibodies tended to begin losing them after the 4-5 month mark and some appeared to be antibody-free by 6-7 months perhaps. This make sense to myself as a lay person. Covid-19 is a corona virus. The common cold is a corona virus and really Covid is just a new version of the common cold(a RNA-changing virus which are notoriously difficult to create a “cure” for. Think AIDS!). I reckon I catch a cold about twice a year, some worse than others. I may carry antibodies for the last cold I had and fought off for about the same time period but eventually I’ll catch a cold again.

My mother got her first shot about 10 days ago in Bullock County, I think it just depends on how each county got their batch.

Here is the list of ingredients in the Pfizer vaccine. I don't see where mercury or formaldehyde is listed.

mRNA
Lipids (including ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2 [(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3- phosphocholine, and cholesterol)
Potassium chloride
Monobasic potassium phosphate
Sodium chloride
Dibasic sodium phosphate dehydrate
Sucrose

I'm sure I will get some hate..........

WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS IN THE PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE?
The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine includes the following ingredients: mRNA,
lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2
[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-
phosphocholine, and cholesterol), potassium chloride, monobasic potassium
phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose.

WHAT ARE THE INGREDIENTS IN THE MODERNA COVID-19 VACCINE?
The Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine contains the following ingredients: messenger ribonucleic acid
(mRNA), lipids (SM-102, polyethylene glycol [PEG] 2000 dimyristoyl glycerol [DMG],
cholesterol, and 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine [DSPC]), tromethamine,
tromethamine hydrochloride, acetic acid, sodium acetate, and sucrose.


Don't see mercury listed............. Any of the chemical engineers on here want to break these big words down to standard redneck terms?

Bottom line is there is much to be learned about this virus, its evolution, the vaccine length of efficacy. An intial covid exposure and recovery will generate antibodies for 3-6 months. It is still undetermined how long a second exposure will generate antibodies for. The vaccine is given in 2 doses with specific timing for a reason. Time will tell if it will provide a long term antibody response or not. Be responsible and do not spread inaccurate information. I get it....... It's easy to be skeptical of some of the information out there. Almost everything in medicine is a risk vs benefit deal, even if it is just minute risk. I work in health care and chose to get the vaccine. Only side effect I had was a sore shoulder at the injection site the day after. For me the risk was worth benefit.


David

No hate. But I'll parody this info a bit. Thank you for posting it !

Messenger ribonucleic acid --- What ?
Polyethylene Glycol -- this is for when it gets cold right ?
Acetic Acid -- acids have a purpose.I've always said that.
Lipids -- That's a Blood thing and should be OK.
Sodium Acetate -- Salt AOK
Cholesterol -- media say's it's bad
Tromethamine -- What ?
Tromethamine Hydrocloride -- What ? plus something else.
Sucrose -- We know that one around here Baby !

I am not spreading inaccurate information. The post was not just about COVID vaccine. I may not have worded it well enough but it made sense to me. However. I did go back a read the site again and I did make a typo.
I said that [several vaccines inject 25ml of mercury] I never said that all vaccines or the COVID vaccine injected mercury. Here is the correct dosage [thimerosal as a preservative contains 50 micrograms of thimerosal per 0.5 mL dose or approximately 25 micrograms (NOT 25 ml) of mercury per 0.5 mL dose.] In that sense I did not have facts right.

Does COVID vaccines have thimerosoal? I don't know, although it would make sense because if it comes out of a vial that is used for multiple injections then it could. I am still not clear on that issue as I have read where mercury was stopped, no it wasn't, yes it was, well only in children under 6yrs, adults can ask for vaccines that don't contain thimerosal, yadda, yadda, yadda. The CDC states [Thimerosal is a mercury-based preservative that has been used for decades in the United States in multi-dose vials (vials containing more than one dose) of medicines and vaccines. There is no evidence of harm caused by the low doses of thimerosal in vaccines, except for minor reactions like redness and swelling at the injection site. However, in July 1999, the Public Health Service agencies, the American Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers agreed that thimerosal should be reduced or eliminated in vaccines as a precautionary measure.] It goes on to say it does no harm, was taken out of childhood vaccines in 2001 etc...Also goes on to say that vaccines given to children under 6yrs old doesn't contain it and adults can ask for single vile vaccines that doesn't contain it. So, is it in there or not? I don't know and really I don't care. From what I've read about COVID and people I know that have had it I am leaning towards taking the shot. However, I would like to know how long the darn thing lasts and does it work for just one strain or multiple or do they even know yet.

i've had the first shot with no real side effects other than tired the first night. I get my second in feb. My wife has had both of hers and had no side effects. she took one brand and I had the other.

Got shot #1 today. The Phizer one. No problems. Arm is not even sore. I’ll know more tomorrow.

I thought a long time about this. Talked to some really smart docs. It’s not that I’m worried about getting it and dying. But I cannot control the people I come into contact with on a daily basis. I’m literally within 12 inches of strangers faces all day. Also, if I’m exposed to someone with it, my company mandates I leave work and cannot return for minimum 5 days after a negative test result. I can’t miss that kind of unplanned/unpaid time off.

Dr. B