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Old Mossy Horns
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Smoking is legal in the United States. Yet companies all over are forcing people to not smoke while on their premises. Some won't hire a smoker.
How long before these same places try to ask you if you own guns before hiring or after hiring?
Most already prohibit bringing them on the property, how long before they just won't hire you if you own one?
I can see a lot of debate on that issue.
Last edited by Fattyfireplug; 05/02/12 12:19 PM.
Character is not developed in moments of temptation and trial. That is when it is intended to be used.
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Man, you are asking the wrong crowd. Remember, nobody around here owns guns. 
Last edited by ts1979flh; 05/02/12 12:21 PM.
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GUVNER
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My guess is that it will come down to some kind of law that prohibits private companies or corporations from drug testing employees. If the gubberment cant then private companies cant.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people.
"The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me
"You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster
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Yea that will probably next,let somebody loose a job because of a drug test and they will use this as fuel for the fire.
Be safe & have fun
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Mildly Quirky
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Some companies are not hiring if you have nicotine show up in your pre-hiring drug screening, or if they do hire you then your insurance costs may be greater.
So even if you're not a smoker and use snuff or chew, they're starting to look for it.
Firearms will be coming soon, I have no doubt. If they are asking for Facebook passwords and ignorant sheeple are giving up those freely, they won't see any problem asking for a list of your firearms or whether you own them or are a hunter.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Chit Show Connoisseur
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Correlations between lifestyles (drinking, unhealthy diets, smoking, etc) and medical costs (ultimately to insurance) will force constraints upon employers, IMO. Is it right?
If my profit margin suffers because I have a bunch of fat smokers who drink heavily, then I might consider a different health insurance plan for them - or let them pay for their plans.
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Mildly Quirky
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Exactly.
Why should you, the company, subsidize unhealthy lifestyles at the same rate as someone who takes care of their body-mind?
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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GUVNER
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Ofcourse, why should employers even buy health insurance for employees? I wish I could buy my own health insurance.
"Never Trust Government" -- Smart people.
"The Great thing we should Fear and the Weird Thing we Trust is Elon Musk" -- Me
"You can be broke but you cant be poor." -- Ruthie-May Webster
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Ofcourse, why should employers even buy health insurance for employees? I wish I could buy my own health insurance. Don't you worry, the Obama plan will take care of that for ya:) 
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Exactly. Who wouldn't want the same medical coverage as a illegal that's not even supposed to be here! Or a leech on society that sits around waiting on a check. Why work? Uncle Obama take care of us. You think his family will be on this great plan? Anybody else hear trumpets warming up?
Last edited by albowhntr; 05/03/12 04:19 AM.
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The next time a crane operator kills a bunch of people b/c he was on drugs will take care of that problem. Drug testing isn't going away and it shouldn't!
Smoking is a totally different issue. If you have two companies of 100 employees each. One, there's a zero % smoking percentage. The other, there's a 30% smoking percentage. The 30% smoking company will have higher healthcare costs than the zero percent company. Why is it "right" to ask the 70% of the non smoking employees to pay higher healthcare (insurance rates) b/c of the 30% of smokers/coworkers?
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Freak of Nature
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Ofcourse, why should employers even buy health insurance for employees? I wish I could buy my own health insurance. If it will make you feel better, you can pay mine at about $630 a month.....
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Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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The next time a crane operator kills a bunch of people b/c he was on drugs will take care of that problem. Drug testing isn't going away and it shouldn't!
Smoking is a totally different issue. If you have two companies of 100 employees each. One, there's a zero % smoking percentage. The other, there's a 30% smoking percentage. The 30% smoking company will have higher healthcare costs than the zero percent company. Why is it "right" to ask the 70% of the non smoking employees to pay higher healthcare (insurance rates) b/c of the 30% of smokers/coworkers? Again, the question stands, what happens when they deem gun owners are a higher risk? What then?
Character is not developed in moments of temptation and trial. That is when it is intended to be used.
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