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How many of you shoot a back bar stabilizer for hunting? I'm trying to get my bow to settle a little better at full draw and wondering if this might help. It's not a cheap investment to buy a good stabilizer and quick detach so I'm looking for some advice before jumping in. I've watched a lot of youtube videos and reviews but I'm looking for first hand advice from the aldeer experts. Thanks
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They really help settling your pin, but I just don’t like it on a hunting bow because it gets in the way. A good compromise is the B-Stinger MicroHex Counter Slide. I’ve got the 12” version my Triax and VXR. You can mount it up close to the riser so it stays out of the way. Not my bow, but this is what it looks like. I’ve got 1 weight on the front and 5 on the back. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/R0N1jKNJ/AAE8532-B-D1-E3-4340-AA6-F-FD1141984-E56.jpg)
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shooting a compound bow is all about the art of being still. thats what separates the pros from the amatures. the pros have mastered the art of being still. it starts with form and funamentals. a stabilizers job is to act as leverage to resist your movement. your bow should be balanced on 2 axis the forward and back and side to side. the back bar controls both. for hunting bows you can use a 10 and 8 inch rods in most cases. this year on my vxr 31.5 ill be using a 15 inch front rod and 8 inch back rod. that bow is really liking that combination. the goal is to get horizontal pin float not up and down. vertical pin float means you are fighting the bow. you want to see horizontal pin float. with horizontal float you can trust the built in centering mechanism in your mind just like when you drive the hand on the stering wheel is keeping you between the lines. you are not thinking about that you are focused down the road.it does the same thing when u aim a bow. focus on the target not the pin and trust the float.that can only be achieved with a perfectly balanced bow. so yes back rods are essential for accuracy. and accuracy is what kills
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I put one on my bow a couple weeks ago. Amazed at how much steadier it made me. I’ve since angled the back bar down a bit, but here’s a pic of my setup. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/ZyQnuQk.jpg)
Last edited by Scott4Hunting; 08/25/20 09:13 PM.
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Thanks for the comments, I appreciate the feedback. I'm just shooting a short stabilizer on the front now and I think a better stabilizer up front and possibly adding the back bar may keep me steadier at full draw. Bee stinger seems like a good brand, other than going with a Mathews brand product for my bow. I'm happy with my Matthews Monster, just looking to add more stability. I have restrained from shooting a new bow because I know I'll get the itch to buy a new one.
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By just reading the comments here, I have learned so much. I've been shooting bows all my life and have never used a back bar stabilizer on a bow, but that will soon change after reading mathews prostaff's and learning that I am fighting the bow. I'm not bad with a bow and can consistently shoot decent (paper plate size) groups at 50 and 60 yards, but I am always looking to improve my ability to be more accurate. I read shaw's comments about the B-stinger microhex counter weight stabilizer, and it makes sense to keep things as compact as possible. What are some other suggestions on back bar setups?
Also, my thumb release is starting to not close all the way and I've been looking at my options. I've read in multiple places on the internet that Carter releases are extremely loud. Is this true? I understand clicking the release on the Dloop will make noise (doesn't bother me because I click it on the Dloop and just let it hang as soon as I get settled into the tree), but some people suggest the actual mechanism releasing the string during the shot is extremely loud. I was considering the Chocolate addiction or Chocolate lite 3 finger. The ability to adjust the trigger position in so many ways has me leaning towards the Chocolate Addiction. What are some other thumb releases to consider?
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I hunt with a Chocolate Lite and don’t have any issues. Any hand held with a cocking mechanism will click when fired. I don’t hear mine when I shoot my bow, and obviously the deer don’t either.
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What Shaw said ☝🏻
I hunted with a Carter Target 4 for several years. Any deer that heard it didn’t get a positive outcome.
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I put a AAE front and rear stabilizer and shot it this past weekend . Seems to help as far as accuracy and keeping still. I had talked to Shaw about it in the past and he suggested it as far as shooting and getting ready for season . Idk as far as hunting with it but I’m leaning that way
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Thanks for the info on this topic! I'm looking at the bstinger Shaw mentioned.
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I am curious as well, about the Bstinger for my new VXR. I am wondering if the dove tail mount is really necessary on a hunting bow? I like fewer things to move and rattle so wondering how it would work with the standard mount.
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Pretty good video on stabilizers [video:youtube] https://youtu.be/aG-EQafbZ74[/video]
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so yes back rods are essential for accuracy. and accuracy is what kills You can be VERY accurate without a back bar which has been pretty much been proven by 99.9% of hunters. Ain't no-way I'm adding that weight to a bow I hike miles with and go through the reprod and coastal jungles we go in to. Sitting in a tree, bow weight, and snag hazards aren't as worrisome.
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