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Mildly Quirky
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We can quit hunting at any time of the day we want to without yet another law or regulation being imposed upon us for no biological reason.
We don't need to be told "quit hunting at 1 p.m. so you can go back to work, fish or sit on the porch."
We can make our own decisions to do that, just like we can make our own decisions to kill two gobblers or four or limit out or not hunt an area, without the government adding more of its boot to our back.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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We can quit hunting at any time of the day we want to without yet another law or regulation being imposed upon us for no biological reason.
We don't need to be told "quit hunting at 1 p.m. so you can go back to work, fish or sit on the porch."
We can make our own decisions to do that, just like we can make our own decisions to kill two gobblers or four or limit out or not hunt an area, without the government adding more of its boot to our back.
Agreed!!
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We can quit hunting at any time of the day we want to without yet another law or regulation being imposed upon us for no biological reason.
We don't need to be told "quit hunting at 1 p.m. so you can go back to work, fish or sit on the porch."
We can make our own decisions to do that, just like we can make our own decisions to kill two gobblers or four or limit out or not hunt an area, without the government adding more of its boot to our back.
Indeed! Last thing we need is a new law eliminating afternoon hunting. I went hunting in the afternoon one time last season, and that was the first day of the season. But other folks count on afternoon hunting, and there is no reason to knock them out of hunting.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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We can quit hunting at any time of the day we want to without yet another law or regulation being imposed upon us for no biological reason.
We don't need to be told "quit hunting at 1 p.m. so you can go back to work, fish or sit on the porch."
We can make our own decisions to do that, just like we can make our own decisions to kill two gobblers or four or limit out or not hunt an area, without the government adding more of its boot to our back.
I don't disagree and said I don't support it being a law. But it does have some positive consequences.
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Mildly Quirky
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What are the legitimate, definitive, data-proven positive consequences?
Alabama's WMAs have had an afternoon prohibition for many years. Hunting ends at noon or 1 p.m. just like in Missouri. Is the population of turkeys on our WMAs stronger and growing thanks to that longtime afternoon prohibition? Is Missouri's population stronger thanks to the half-day restriction? I know it's a great state for turkey hunting and gets a lot of visitors.
I'd love to hear or see some data that shows that half a day on WMAs is clearly beneficial AND would prove to be the same statewide on private lands. If it truly is or would be, fine. If there's nothing that supports cutting half the season with a morning-only regulation other than anecdotal "Aw, you know it probably helps," then that's not right.
Private-land hunters can decide on their own to hunt all day, half a day, one hour, two days a week, not at all or every day from sunrise to sunset. They have a true 45-day season (or whatever it is). Sunrise to sunset, every day for the season, on private land for them to make the decision.
But the WMA hunter has half that amount. Any regulation to curtail the public's amount of hunting with no hard, legitimate data isn't a good idea. That goes back to the "Hey, we gotta do something! Y'all know it's bad so we need to do something now! Look at those other states! We gotta do something before it's too late." deal.
As with anything, if the agency has data to support such a significant change -- be it a bag limit reduction or half-day change, or shooting hens, or whatever -- it should let everyone know.
Last edited by Clem; 09/09/20 10:22 PM.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Nine pages, and still, no one has quoted or cited any actual data that turkey populations are declining in such a manner due to hunting that changes in the regulations are needed.
Data/science/biology should drive management decisions. Not politics, money, or "what other states are doing."
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If u cut the bird limit - at least move it back to March 15 start - 4/1 is at the heart of henned up part of season I agree with this.
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If they extended the season and upped the bag limit I would likely still have so many turkeys I couldn't beat them out off my place unless I sold it to Wal-Mart and they turned it into a parking lot.
But I am not that short sighted.
Those on here complaining are the same bunch that get on every other thread about a rule and whine like a classroom full of 2nd graders. IMO some of you think wildlife management is what comes out of the end of a gun barrel connected to your trigger finger.
I am glad you never will be in charge. Enjoy shooting the 3 birds you are allowed on your limit and suck it up buttercup.
No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
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If they extended the season and upped the bag limit I would likely still have so many turkeys I couldn't beat them out off my place unless I sold it to Wal-Mart and they turned it into a parking lot.
But I am not that short sighted.
Those on here complaining are the same bunch that get on every other thread about a rule and whine like a classroom full of 2nd graders. IMO some of you think wildlife management is what comes out of the end of a gun barrel connected to your trigger finger.
I am glad you never will be in charge. Enjoy shooting the 3 birds you are allowed on your limit and suck it up buttercup.
I'm gonna follow Chuck's example. Make up my own rules to suit me and my buddies
I hate making a good first impression. There’s no way I can keep that shit up.
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If they extended the season and upped the bag limit I would likely still have so many turkeys I couldn't beat them out off my place unless I sold it to Wal-Mart and they turned it into a parking lot.
But I am not that short sighted.
Those on here complaining are the same bunch that get on every other thread about a rule and whine like a classroom full of 2nd graders. IMO some of you think wildlife management is what comes out of the end of a gun barrel connected to your trigger finger.
I am glad you never will be in charge. Enjoy shooting the 3 birds you are allowed on your limit and suck it up buttercup.
Huh? Never mind - I don’t think I care for an interpretation.
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not a single one of those projects has any data connected with it
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine
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If they extended the season and upped the bag limit I would likely still have so many turkeys I couldn't beat them out off my place unless I sold it to Wal-Mart and they turned it into a parking lot.
But I am not that short sighted.
Those on here complaining are the same bunch that get on every other thread about a rule and whine like a classroom full of 2nd graders. IMO some of you think wildlife management is what comes out of the end of a gun barrel connected to your trigger finger.
I am glad you never will be in charge. Enjoy shooting the 3 birds you are allowed on your limit and suck it up buttercup.
It hasn't passed yet, and it will still be 5 in 2021. I'm not giving up a lifetime of work without a fight, and I hope that a lot more folks will approach it the same way. The CAB has taken a lot of heat from hunters over the years, but they are our last line of defense against tyranny. Every one of them was appointed by a Republican governor, so it's far from certain that this is over.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Mildly Quirky
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"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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gobbler, one doesnt end until 2021 and the Missouri one just started.
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gobbler, one doesnt end until 2021 and the Missouri one just started. I understand, thats why they provide no information
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine
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If they extended the season and upped the bag limit I would likely still have so many turkeys I couldn't beat them out off my place unless I sold it to Wal-Mart and they turned it into a parking lot.
But I am not that short sighted.
Those on here complaining are the same bunch that get on every other thread about a rule and whine like a classroom full of 2nd graders. IMO some of you think wildlife management is what comes out of the end of a gun barrel connected to your trigger finger.
I am glad you never will be in charge. Enjoy shooting the 3 birds you are allowed on your limit and suck it up buttercup.
Yes just let them make any rules they want and live with what they decide they will allow you. No reason to fight them even if they have no data to back up their rules 
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine
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If they extended the season and upped the bag limit I would likely still have so many turkeys I couldn't beat them out off my place unless I sold it to Wal-Mart and they turned it into a parking lot.
But I am not that short sighted.
Those on here complaining are the same bunch that get on every other thread about a rule and whine like a classroom full of 2nd graders. IMO some of you think wildlife management is what comes out of the end of a gun barrel connected to your trigger finger.
I am glad you never will be in charge. Enjoy shooting the 3 birds you are allowed on your limit and suck it up buttercup.
Yes just let them make any rules they want and live with what they decide they will allow you. No reason to fight them even if they have no data to back up their rules It’s a new form of hunter virtue signaling / sign in the yard. They go along with what they are told cause they are good little sheeple and better than you.
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