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Dr. Lemme made a motion yesterday at the CAB meeting to move the dates of turkey season to April 1 to May 1 and reduce to 3 bird limit. Chuck Sykes was not in attendance (isn't that his job?). Motion was tabled until the Feb meeting. I would expect a vote then to put this in play.

can we email him our opinions?

Can't do that. 4/1/21 is on a Thursday. That isn't fair to the folks who can only hunt the weekends. Or at least that is the reasoning they used to screw us out of starting on the 15th and tried to pacify us with 3 day on the back end when it's hot as hell.

Maybe it's ironic they want to open it on April Fool's Day.

Fk em

Lease prices and pressure are already out of control in Mississippi. These type of changes not only hurt the hunting in Alabama, but the neighboring states too.

Ain't gonna push me into neighboring states. Just gonna make me an outlaw.
Well.... More of an outlaw

If u cut the bird limit - at least move it back to March 15 start - 4/1 is at the heart of henned up part of season

what were his reasons for doing this?

Who can remember when we just looked when the season started and hunted accordingly without pissing and moaning about everything.

Cause chucky can and wants to

Who can remember pre chuckie????

I used to do that before they put an arrogant asswipe loudmouth in charge.
Now I do whatever the hell I please I wish Chuck would come catch me in person.

Chuck Sykes was not in attendance (isn't that his job?).


Are you sure?

Taking away March hunting for anything below Hwy 80 would be about the most asinine regulation in AL hunting history. Not sure I’d want to be associated with a move that dumb.

It should start March 10th around here.

Me. Loved them Wednesday openers!

Dr. B

**Who is Dr. Lemme?
I’ll say this and “Lemme” make one thing clear. I do not want anymore changes!!

Unless something changed, and it may have, for several years the Board typically would not take voting action at the first meeting of the year on something carried over from the prior year.

Part of this was to prevent someone mentioning something at one of the meetings, including the third or final meeting, and then five, six, seven months later when no one is thinking about it have a vote and pass it. Doing so would catch everyone off guard and not give the public much (or any) chance to learn what was being proposed or discussed so they could attend the second meeting (usually in April) and/or third meeting. It can be argued that "we discussed it in (whatever month) and it was made public, and anyone could've contacted us since then."

Maybe so, but memories are short. Any of y'all remember something discussed in their February meeting? Or the last meeting in 2019? I'll bet not. The first meeting for years was and probably should be little more than administrative, procedural and a table-setting of sorts for the next meetings unless a vote is legitimately needed. And if something is drastic enough to have a "we MUST HAVE a vote now!" consideration, the Commissioner could do it by order. The CAB supposed to be a conduit between the public and DCNR.

What should happen IMO is a change in the law to have at least quarterly meetings of the Board, if not five or six a year. The Board had two meetings for years before a third was added in the mid-2000s. If my memory serves correctly, 49er used to say that by wording of the legal statue they are to have only two meetings a year.

I'm all for more public meetings of the Board as long as they're done legally. If that means changing the statute by Legislative action, so be it. Moving them around the state and having them more frequently would provide more transparency (maybe) for the public.


As for the turkey proposal, if it's being made now it's already being discussed and something that someone wants. The Board's proposals don't just come out of left field.

Dr. Lemme is Director of the Alabama Cooperative Extension System and an Ex-Officio member of the board, along with Gov. MeeMawa and Rick Pate, Commissioner, Department of Agriculture and Industries


They don't list emails on this list of the Board members and other Board info:

https://www.outdooralabama.com/about-us/conservation-advisory-board

Lemme's info on the ACES site is here:

https://ssl.acesag.auburn.edu/directory-new/u/Gary-Lemme-mgaRFFOz/

Are ex-officio members even supposed to be making motions?

Oh, and Lemme is a Yank too.
A 4-week season is some of them Yank rules. They’ll make it two 10-day splits or some such we start down that road.

I don't ever recall an Ex-Officio member making a formal proposal in the 15ish years I attended the meetings. They're official members of the board, though, and according to the accepted parlimentary Robert's Rules of Order they have full discussion, proposal and voting powers.

See Q2: https://www.robertsrules.com/faq.html#2

Speaking of parlimentary procedure, the Board would do good to return to Dan Moultrie's addition many years ago of a legitimate parlimentarian on hand at each meeting to exercise the Robert's Rules of Order, answer questions about procedure, and prevent any mistaken discussion, out-of-order procedures, votes, etc. I think they had one on hand for a couple of meetings but it didn't last.

It's good to have one, IMO, to suss questions about proper procedure. Would be a positive step.