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#3062957 03/10/20 11:26 AM
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To register my "new" boat, I'm having to do an application for a state-assigned hull identification number. Can't find one on the boat itself. I know it's a 1980 model, but do not know the manufacturer. Any guesses? The application asks for it, but do not know how crucial it is to the application.


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just make up a number and dremel it on there or rivet a plate with it on there make up a manufacturer use your last name or write in N/A

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Looks like you could make the old tag number out? If so can’t they use that to register it again / tell you the hull number?

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Not certain on Alabama, but for both Louisiana and Mississippi it dosnt really matter. Any stat issues HIN # basically identifies or classifies the boat as homemade at that point.

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stamp set from harbor freight $8 serial # plate off ebay $10. Search (one serial number plate hot rod)

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Originally Posted by Darrylcom
Looks like you could make the old tag number out? If so can’t they use that to register it again / tell you the hull number?


If its more than 3 years out of system it drops out is what I was told a few years back.


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make something up..it doesn't matter unless you're gonna smuggle drugs or illegals and the boat gets confiscated...

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make something up..it doesn't matter unless you're gonna smuggle drugs or illegals and the boat gets confiscated...


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D@mn did that thing belong to the confederate navy!


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Not sure you can just make it up... every state has its own MIC number with the Coast Guard. I think this is what you are asking about. I don't remember what Alabama's MIC code is. It is the first 3 digits of the HIN number and determines the manufacture.

The application for a HIN shouldn't be asking for an existing HIN otherwise you would not need to be applying for the HIN in the first place.

Doesn't make sense.

But you are in luck this is Alabama and Daisy Duke down at the DMV will probably not know anything about this either. Play dumb and cross your fingers pay the registration fee (tax) and all good.


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Originally Posted by Goatkiller
Not sure you can just make it up... every state has its own MIC number with the Coast Guard. I think this is what you are asking about. I don't remember what Alabama's MIC code is. It is the first 3 digits of the HIN number and determines the manufacture.

The application for a HIN shouldn't be asking for an existing HIN otherwise you would not need to be applying for the HIN in the first place.

Doesn't make sense.

But you are in luck this is Alabama and Daisy Duke down at the DMV will probably not know anything about this either. Play dumb and cross your fingers pay the registration fee (tax) and all good.

so every manufacturer stamps a HID on their boats the day it is made and just assume the state the boat will be sold in? has nothing to do with the coast guard or state its just like a vin# on a car he can just make one up been there done that on an old 70s model tin boat they dont care as long as something is on that paper work they dont physically check anything so it doesnt matter

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It could be a Sears boat, I'd just go with that.


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I have one that looks about like it that will never leave my pond at the farm.

if it has manufacturers plaque I will remove and you can assume my boats identity.

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Originally Posted by GKelly
Originally Posted by Goatkiller
Not sure you can just make it up... every state has its own MIC number with the Coast Guard. I think this is what you are asking about. I don't remember what Alabama's MIC code is. It is the first 3 digits of the HIN number and determines the manufacture.

The application for a HIN shouldn't be asking for an existing HIN otherwise you would not need to be applying for the HIN in the first place.

Doesn't make sense.

But you are in luck this is Alabama and Daisy Duke down at the DMV will probably not know anything about this either. Play dumb and cross your fingers pay the registration fee (tax) and all good.

so every manufacturer stamps a HID on their boats the day it is made and just assume the state the boat will be sold in? has nothing to do with the coast guard or state its just like a vin# on a car he can just make one up been there done that on an old 70s model tin boat they dont care as long as something is on that paper work they dont physically check anything so it doesnt matter


Every Boat manufacturer has a MIC number assigned by the Coast Guard. If it is Home Built then each State has a State code that goes in replacement of the manufacture's MIC number.

He's asking a question about an application and I'm trying to answering it. If you want him to make it up just post the HIN you want him to use.


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Originally Posted by GKelly
Originally Posted by Goatkiller
Not sure you can just make it up... every state has its own MIC number with the Coast Guard. I think this is what you are asking about. I don't remember what Alabama's MIC code is. It is the first 3 digits of the HIN number and determines the manufacture.

The application for a HIN shouldn't be asking for an existing HIN otherwise you would not need to be applying for the HIN in the first place.

Doesn't make sense.

But you are in luck this is Alabama and Daisy Duke down at the DMV will probably not know anything about this either. Play dumb and cross your fingers pay the registration fee (tax) and all good.

so every manufacturer stamps a HID on their boats the day it is made and just assume the state the boat will be sold in? has nothing to do with the coast guard or state its just like a vin# on a car he can just make one up been there done that on an old 70s model tin boat they dont care as long as something is on that paper work they dont physically check anything so it doesnt matter



Goatkiller is correct. Each manufacture is assigned an MIC form the coast guard, in which they use to issue Hull Numbers or HINs on boats they manufacture. And they do matter to the coast guard, or registering body, because the HIN in carried federal regulations with it to the manufacture regarding the boat having met certain safety requirements regarding flotation and such.
Each state can also issue it's own hull number that will be recognized by he coast guard, in Mississippi it is MIZ. A boat having a state issued hull number will be viewed as not meeting any federal safety regulations, and can have certain additional challenges when trying to insure.

TO the OP. They are not asking you to make up a number, they will issue that to you. They simply want the original builder, manufacturer. I would take your best guess as to what make it is, or simply put unknown and you should be good to go.

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Originally Posted by JustinJ
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller
Not sure you can just make it up... every state has its own MIC number with the Coast Guard. I think this is what you are asking about. I don't remember what Alabama's MIC code is. It is the first 3 digits of the HIN number and determines the manufacture.

The application for a HIN shouldn't be asking for an existing HIN otherwise you would not need to be applying for the HIN in the first place.

Doesn't make sense.

But you are in luck this is Alabama and Daisy Duke down at the DMV will probably not know anything about this either. Play dumb and cross your fingers pay the registration fee (tax) and all good.

so every manufacturer stamps a HID on their boats the day it is made and just assume the state the boat will be sold in? has nothing to do with the coast guard or state its just like a vin# on a car he can just make one up been there done that on an old 70s model tin boat they dont care as long as something is on that paper work they dont physically check anything so it doesnt matter



Goatkiller is correct. Each manufacture is assigned an MIC form the coast guard, in which they use to issue Hull Numbers or HINs on boats they manufacture. And they do matter to the coast guard, or registering body, because the HIN in carried federal regulations with it to the manufacture regarding the boat having met certain safety requirements regarding flotation and such.
Each state can also issue it's own hull number that will be recognized by he coast guard, in Mississippi it is MIZ. A boat having a state issued hull number will be viewed as not meeting any federal safety regulations, and can have certain additional challenges when trying to insure.

TO the OP. They are not asking you to make up a number, they will issue that to you. They simply want the original builder, manufacturer. I would take your best guess as to what make it is, or simply put unknown and you should be good to go.


I know they aren’t asking me to make up a HIN number. That’s the ALDEER suggestion. My luck, I would make up a number that’s the correct number for a 40 foot boat that’s already in the system. I have access to several private lakes where I don’t even have to worry about registration, but would like to be able to eventually put it in public waters.

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