I am a millwright, we can rent carharts from Cintas at my place of employment. Been doing that for years never had any of the issues that y'all speak of with the carharts y'all have bought. But I will say until recently they have swapped their material to a lighter fabric those are not as good. Around here you can find the folks selling 2nds of the carhart rental cloths that are around 11oz. that is ones you want tough enough to last but not heavy. Get wet they dry in a hour or 2.