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Interesting encounter with a “GW” last week. I was setting up my brother who is in a wheel chair and a truck pulls up on us. As I approach the truck a guy stepped out the passenger seat saying they needed to get down our road to check timber on a diff piece of property. I said not a chance at 3:00pm on Friday afternoon we were hunting. He was quick to say he was a GW and that he was contacted by a land owner to show a logger where their property was located. My response was “not my problem”. I did offer them access the next day around lunch if they wanted. He proceeds to show me some type of badge (I never really looked at it). In a matter of 3 min he went from area game warden, to retired game warden to GW in different area. He was not ugly to us just seemed irritated with us. Question is if he was a GW off duty do I have to give him access. He claimed to have permission to use that road but started side stepping when I told him I was the only one who could give permission. There are other roads to that property just in bad shape. I either own or lease all property bordering that road.
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Watching this. I didn't think a legitimate Game Warden had to ask.
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Old Mossy Horns
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Like fred says , tell him to pound sand
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We don't pay GW to show loggers where to go. Logger pick up a phone and call land owner's he needs to talk too
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I think Barney Fife was blowing smoke. I would have called the land owner.
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Free men aren't equal and equal men aren't free! I choose to defend my freedom!
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showing a logger to a piece of property doesnt sound like the responsibility of a GW you were right to tell them its not your problem. the logger can contact the property owner and figure it out im sure, using your road was just more convenient at the time.
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Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
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I'm betting he's prolly a security guy for a large timber company I know Alabama power has land agents and so does Russell lands that are basically security guards the apco guys are actual law enforcement
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I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Interesting encounter with a “GW” last week. I was setting up my brother who is in a wheel chair and a truck pulls up on us. As I approach the truck a guy stepped out the passenger seat saying they needed to get down our road to check timber on a diff piece of property. I said not a chance at 3:00pm on Friday afternoon we were hunting. He was quick to say he was a GW and that he was contacted by a land owner to show a logger where their property was located. My response was “not my problem”. I did offer them access the next day around lunch if they wanted. He proceeds to show me some type of badge (I never really looked at it). In a matter of 3 min he went from area game warden, to retired game warden to GW in different area. He was not ugly to us just seemed irritated with us. Question is if he was a GW off duty do I have to give him access. He claimed to have permission to use that road but started side stepping when I told him I was the only one who could give permission. There are other roads to that property just in bad shape. I either own or lease all property bordering that road. And I would have had my cell phone out videoing and getting pics of him, the vehicle, and the tag. id put a camera up. He will be back.
Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching - even when doing the wrong thing is legal. Aldo Leopold .. (except when it comes to trailer tags)
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Impersonating a law enforcement officer (when you are not one) and/or using the power of one's public office for private gain (such as to access a piece of property he wants to hunt, or aid a property owner in finding access for loggers access in exchange for being allowed to hunt the property) are all potentially criminal or fireable actions. I'm not saying you need to take this that far but if you have any more issues with this supposed game warden or especially if he starts harassing you, just keep that in mind.
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Sounds like a fired game warden to me. You need to have a good contact at DCNR you can call when something like this occurs.
“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.” -- Thomas Jefferson
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Some large timber companies have their own conservation officers, or they used to anyway. They only had authority on the timber company land. I know Scott Paper company had their own officers around the tensaw delta back in the late 80s.
I hate making a good first impression. There’s no way I can keep that shit up.
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They had their own at Gulf States which is now Westervelt.
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Some large timber companies have their own conservation officers, or they used to anyway. They only had authority on the timber company land. I know Scott Paper company had their own officers around the tensaw delta back in the late 80s. Any he should have identified himself in that fashion if that was the case
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Some large timber companies have their own conservation officers, or they used to anyway. They only had authority on the timber company land. I know Scott Paper company had their own officers around the tensaw delta back in the late 80s. Any he should have identified himself in that fashion if that was the case Absolutely. I wasn't defending the action, just saying there are game wardens that don't work for the state.
I hate making a good first impression. There’s no way I can keep that shit up.
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You are correct I should have videoed it. This was not a 2-3 min encounter this lasted 15-20 min. He was determined he was gonna pass. My favorite statement and one that really made me question him was when he told me he grew up in the community on the other side of our clear cut and knew all the land owners. I asked him why he needed my name when I told him I owned all the land up to the timber company’s land and that I lease the timber company property. He did not have a response. I’m just suspicious of anyone on that property due to the amount of trespassing. I knew he wasn’t the local GW because I spoke with him earlier this year on other issues.
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