TC, Iam 47 and used to stack full size fridgerators 3 high by myself. I would tell people that I like pain. I was just a scrawny man but I didn't act like one. I started typing this thread earlier but was shaking so bad from the pain in my legs that Iam thinking is gout. about 6 months ago I had a kidney stone with pain similiar to what I feel in my legs. now I wouldn't trade places with you, but I have come to fear pain. I have learned that every good day is a blessing and that there is pain out there that can make the toughest men squeel like a puppy. and by watching others I know that sometimes the pain never lets up. what iam am saying is that its better to think about the pain you don't have than the pain you have.