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Basically percentage of N per 100# and form it’s in

Is there any reason youd choose one over the other in certain applications? Ive always used ammonia nitrate. If im not mistaken, urea is cheaper right? I just never heard of bagged urea untill recently. I read something the other day where a guy said he was getting urea at his coop for $5/5gal bucket. Thats pretty cheap. Is that what it normally costs?

Man I’m not allowed to sell by the 5 gal bucket. That’s not a good practice. Urea is cheaper per unit of N than nitrate. We as a company don’t carry nitrate due to homeland security issues and costs.

The question is more about the usage, I am talking about farming. Is there any particular application or crop where you wouldnt want to use urea. If I remember right, the guy at the coop told me blends with urea would generally not stay in the ground as long as blends with ammonia nitrate. How much is bagged urea per sack. I usually pay around $15/sack for ammonia nitrate

I’d really caution getting agronomy info from most coop stores. They really lack in that area. Urea is the primary Dry N source today like I mentioned before due to cost of unit per N. And no there’s no situation that nitrate would be preferred. We treat urea with urease inhibitors or stabilizers that slow down the volatility.

If you use urea you need to add a stabilizer to it, so it will not volitize. In my opinion ammonia nitrate works faster, but doesn’t last as long as urea. Ammonia nitrate would probably be a better option on plots.

Following, I may switch to urea for corn if price is better than ammonia nitrate.

Looks like my resident does have produced a bumper crop of lil' ones this year. At one point yesterday afternoon I had 8 fawns in the field together with 5 grown does.. I think one of the bigger does may possibly have triplets. It was hard to tell for sure though. They all came out with her but then a few minutes later other does and fawns started coming out behind them. It could have just been another does fawn tagging along with them. After that there were fawns everywhere and I couldn't tell chit for chit at that point.

I picked up a big clump of dog fennel that was laid over and acting like a make shift exclusion cage to show how hard the field is being hit. You can see the taller green grains in the back of the pic where it was laid over. That’s just how much pressure my field is already receiving. The good thing though is that the deer are just browsing it back to the hay layer so it should recover and put back out. As crazy as it may sound I may layer on more cereal rye……I really need about a 10 acre field to plant but I just don’t have the area to do it without wiping out all the cover.

I think a lot of you may be confusing Ammonium Sulfate with Ammonium Nitrate.

Nitrate if not easy to find as it can be used to make a bomb.

Or maybe my coop just doesnt carry it much...

Most folks don’t carry Am nitrate anymore. Is a major pain in ass

It is high nitrogen with sulfur. I ask for ammonia nitrate, thats what daddy always called it but I guess what were getting now is ammonia sulfate.

Am sulfate is only a 21-0-0-24 analysis.

What is "high nitrogen with sulfur" then. Just nitrogen with sulfur added?

That’s right. Probly nitrate or urea cut with sulfate.

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Pike has on their price list AMMO and AMMO/SUL. What is the difference in those? AMMO is $10 more per ton.

I have no idea what they have made up without seeing a numbered analysis

Our coops around here carry ammonia nitrate.

I feel sorry for them.