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2Dogs you are wrong. Bourbon is a generic term that only means it is made in the United States. The meaning of "generic" can be debated by doekiller like a good little lawyer.
Here is the definition:
Tennessee whiskey is straight whiskey produced in the U.S. state of Tennessee. Although it has been legally defined as a bourbon whiskey in some international trade agreements,[1][2][3] most current producers of Tennessee whiskey disclaim references to their products as "bourbon" and do not label them as such on any of their bottles or advertising materials. All current Tennessee whiskey producers are required by Tennessee law to produce their whiskeys in Tennessee and – with the sole exception of Benjamin Prichard's – to use a filtering step known as the Lincoln County Process prior to aging the whiskey. Beyond the perceived marketing value of the distinction, Tennessee whiskey and bourbon have almost identical requirements, and most Tennessee whiskeys meet the criteria for bourbon.[4]
On a federal level, the definition of Tennessee whiskey is legally established under the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and at least one other international trade agreement that require it to be "a straight Bourbon whiskey authorized to be produced only in the State of Tennessee".
I'll side with the Counsellor. Folks at Woodford Reserve said there is federal law that dictates what can be labeled Bourbon. I guess the tour guides at Woodford never got the memo.
"Why do you ask"?
Too many people spend money they don't have , on things they don't need, to impress people they don't know.
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Hell alls iz said whuz that i haven't had a drop of Whiskey "OR" Bourbon 🤣
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2Dogs you are wrong. Bourbon is a generic term that only means it is made in the United States. The meaning of "generic" can be debated by doekiller like a good little lawyer.
Here is the definition:
Tennessee whiskey is straight whiskey produced in the U.S. state of Tennessee. Although it has been legally defined as a bourbon whiskey in some international trade agreements,[1][2][3] most current producers of Tennessee whiskey disclaim references to their products as "bourbon" and do not label them as such on any of their bottles or advertising materials. All current Tennessee whiskey producers are required by Tennessee law to produce their whiskeys in Tennessee and – with the sole exception of Benjamin Prichard's – to use a filtering step known as the Lincoln County Process prior to aging the whiskey. Beyond the perceived marketing value of the distinction, Tennessee whiskey and bourbon have almost identical requirements, and most Tennessee whiskeys meet the criteria for bourbon.[4]
On a federal level, the definition of Tennessee whiskey is legally established under the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and at least one other international trade agreement that require it to be "a straight Bourbon whiskey authorized to be produced only in the State of Tennessee".
The "Lincoln County Process" is an additional step to make Tennessee Whiskey. That is filtering it through maple charcoal prior after taking it out of the cask.
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There isn't any think in any law that says bourbon has to be made in Kentucky.
Having said that, if you can't tell a difference in taste in Tennessee whiskey and Bourbon, the entire issue is lost on you.
You know why everyone drinks Jack and Coke? Because Jack Daniels is so nasty you can't drink it any other way.
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Why the hell we arguing bout whether its bourbon or not? Just drank the schit
There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??
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There isn't any think in any law that says bourbon has to be made in Kentucky.
Having said that, if you can't tell a difference in taste in Tennessee whiskey and Bourbon, the entire issue is lost on you.
You know why everyone drinks Jack and Coke? Because Jack Daniels is so nasty you can't drink it any other way. My understanding was it could be made anywhere , but to be labeled Bourbon it must meet guidelines per federal law. I guess those you posted earlier, correct?
"Why do you ask"?
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Yes, what doekiller posted was the correct classification of a "Bourbon".
No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
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2Dogs you are wrong. Bourbon is a generic term that only means it is made in the United States. The meaning of "generic" can be debated by doekiller like a good little lawyer.
Here is the definition:
Tennessee whiskey is straight whiskey produced in the U.S. state of Tennessee. Although it has been legally defined as a bourbon whiskey in some international trade agreements,[1][2][3] most current producers of Tennessee whiskey disclaim references to their products as "bourbon" and do not label them as such on any of their bottles or advertising materials. All current Tennessee whiskey producers are required by Tennessee law to produce their whiskeys in Tennessee and – with the sole exception of Benjamin Prichard's – to use a filtering step known as the Lincoln County Process prior to aging the whiskey. Beyond the perceived marketing value of the distinction, Tennessee whiskey and bourbon have almost identical requirements, and most Tennessee whiskeys meet the criteria for bourbon.[4]
On a federal level, the definition of Tennessee whiskey is legally established under the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and at least one other international trade agreement that require it to be "a straight Bourbon whiskey authorized to be produced only in the State of Tennessee".
The "Lincoln County Process" is an additional step to make Tennessee Whiskey. That is filtering it through maple charcoal prior after taking it out of the cask. Doekiller is correct. Tennessee Whiskey meets every requirement of the definition of bourbon, but bourbon is legally defined at the federal level, while Tennessee whiskey is a matter of state law. And Tennessee state law requires that to be considered Tennessee whiskey, it must be distilled within state lines and through a sugar-maple charcoal. That is why it is sweet as hell.
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Bourbon is generic and only means it was made in the United States. Tennessee Whiskey means a bourbon made in Tennessee. Tennessee whiskey is sour mash whiskey not bourbon. I've drank enough George Dickel in my lifetime to float a battleship. I rarely drink whiskey any more, but Dickel was my choice for about 40 years, I actually preferred the black label
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You know why everyone drinks Jack and Coke? Because Jack Daniels is so nasty you can't drink it any other way. This man knows. Jack Daniels is the Milwaukees Best Light of the whiskey world.
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JD does suck to me. Think it's because my BIL got me blind on it one time when I was about 14. George Dickel, well, I'm in that same battleship as ronfarmer. Don't drink much of anything other than beer now adays.
Did however get to try some Weller over the weekend. Apparently made by the same folks as Pappy. Got into quite a bit of it. It kicked me pretty well. I'd put it right up there with Blanton's.
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All bourbon is whiskey but not all whiskey is bourbon 🥃
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All bourbon is whiskey but not all whiskey is bourbon 🥃
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All bourbon is whiskey but not all whiskey is bourbon 🥃
![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/qRVhd16C/download.jpg) image hosting services Yep , it's that simple. After this this thread I need 3 fingers of Kentucky Bourbon.
"Why do you ask"?
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Did however get to try some Weller over the weekend. Apparently made by the same folks as Pappy. Got into quite a bit of it. It kicked me pretty well.
Yep, but it gave Ned and I a great laugh watching you hold up that post.
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Bourbon is generic and only means it was made in the United States. Tennessee Whiskey means a bourbon made in Tennessee. No, bourbon isn't generic. It is by federal law whiskey that made for U.S. consumption and must be: Produced in the United States Made from a grain mixture that is at least 51% corn Aged in new, charred oak containers Distilled to no more than 160 (U.S.) proof (80% alcohol by volume) Entered into the container for aging at no more than 125 proof. Tennessee whiskey by state law is filtered through maple charcoal. That is what makes it sweeter than bourbon. Tennessee whiskey, by the way it is made, actually qualifies it as bourbon, but they go one step further with the charcoal filtering process. If you look on the barrels they mark it as bourbon. We've done most all of the Bourbon trail tours and we've also done the George Dickel and Jack Daniels tours too. So, that's what I understood from all the tours we have done.
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Did however get to try some Weller over the weekend. Apparently made by the same folks as Pappy. Got into quite a bit of it. It kicked me pretty well.
Yep, but it gave Ned and I a great laugh watching you hold up that post. Doekiller, you know I'm just across the river. I'll be glad to bring the Weller!
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