|
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 38,489
Boo Boo Head
|
|
Boo Boo Head
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 38,489 |
I’d like to see how the success/failure rate goes this year since it’s getting dry. Anybody can make anything work when it rains every 4th day all year
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 863
6 point
|
|
6 point
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 863 |
I’d like to see how the success/failure rate goes this year since it’s getting dry. Anybody can make anything work when it rains every 4th day all year Wont throw and mow hold more moisture than bare dirt?
Last edited by Rockhound; 05/30/19 09:43 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 38,489
Boo Boo Head
|
|
Boo Boo Head
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 38,489 |
Maybe to a certain point but nothing replaces seed placed in the dirt. I’m not saying it’s gotta be disked. I no till with a drill. But that thatch won’t hold moisture forever. On harder ground that seedling root touches dry dirt under that cover kiss it goodbye.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 863
6 point
|
|
6 point
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 863 |
Maybe to a certain point but nothing replaces seed placed in the dirt. I’m not saying it’s gotta be disked. I no till with a drill. But that thatch won’t hold moisture forever. On harder ground that seedling root touches dry dirt under that cover kiss it goodbye. Gotcha, I see what you're saying now.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 5,711
12 point
|
|
12 point
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 5,711 |
Yea, actually ground that has been throwed and mowed holds a lot more moisture and the soil temp is significantly lower of what bare dirt is. The thatch holds moisture against the seed. It takes more rainfall to get T&M plots going, but that's a good thing. Seed in bare dirt sprouts with just a small rain, and then if no more comes, well you know what happens. For us food plotters on small properties we cant justify buying seed drills when we can get similar results.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 38,489
Boo Boo Head
|
|
Boo Boo Head
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 38,489 |
Common sense goes a long way. It’s so dry up here nothing will work up here til rain comes.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,167 Likes: 7
Old Mossy Horns
|
|
Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,167 Likes: 7 |
Don’t know if I’m even gonna plant summer plots this year. I’m afraid it’s gonna be a hot and dry one. I may just spend that money on liming again
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 7,414 Likes: 14
14 point
|
|
14 point
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 7,414 Likes: 14 |
Since only thing I got to grow last fall and winter was Watson ryegrass i’ll lime more too. Then more Whatson seed and push current crop over it with a board in mid to late September
“It’s enough to make a man feel sour. Burning minutes every day by the hour. Just to end up gone like everything else.”
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,834 Likes: 14
14 point
|
|
14 point
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 9,834 Likes: 14 |
Good chance of rain for me this weekend and early next week. I’m going to put something out Friday on a field by the lake. It needs biomass and hopefully a few seeds left for the doves. Probably going with millet or sunflowers.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 38,489
Boo Boo Head
|
|
Boo Boo Head
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 38,489 |
I’m gonna hook my drill up get it greased and get my guidance system set. IF this rain moves in it’ll be great to plant millet right behind it then sun hemp
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 22,621 Likes: 23
Freak of Nature
|
|
Freak of Nature
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 22,621 Likes: 23 |
Hoping this rain materializes.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,479 Likes: 5
10 point
|
|
10 point
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,479 Likes: 5 |
What’s the general liming rate?
3 things that define what kind of person a man is: women, money, and deer
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 38,489
Boo Boo Head
|
|
Boo Boo Head
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 38,489 |
What’s the general liming rate? Several factors. Buffer ph, soil structure, etc etc but anywhere from .5 to 1.5 tons per acre. Extreme situations can call for 2 but never apply more than 2 tons at a time at 6-8 month intervals or you’re wasting $$$
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 33,437
Freak of Nature
|
|
Freak of Nature
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 33,437 |
Worked hard on some throw n mow this week ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/I6Mzeff.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/NDa4C2I.jpg) Wish I had one of those. I turned about 15 acres last weekend with a 7 foot disc and it takes a long damn time.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 16,939
Old Mossy Horns
|
|
Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 16,939 |
Worked hard on some throw n mow this week ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/I6Mzeff.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/NDa4C2I.jpg) I need that I've been crosscutting pastures with a athens 93 cuz some dumbass didn't roll it after they sludged it last year. Its taking a lot of time. They ain't coming back for sure.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 316
4 point
|
|
4 point
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 316 |
quick question.. do y'all inoculate your ICP before planting. with the rain looking more and more likely this week gunna trying T&M some ICP's in a few of our summer plots along wit some millet in other poorer fields. Got some lab lab that I may try next rain shower that worked well last June.
IG - @_teamsouternroots_ Legacy: Planting the seeds and knowing you will never see the fruits.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,167 Likes: 7
Old Mossy Horns
|
|
Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,167 Likes: 7 |
quick question.. do y'all inoculate your ICP before planting. with the rain looking more and more likely this week gunna trying T&M some ICP's in a few of our summer plots along wit some millet in other poorer fields. Got some lab lab that I may try next rain shower that worked well last June. Lab lab has been iffy on my plots I’d stick with I/c peas and soybean.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 5,711
12 point
|
|
12 point
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 5,711 |
I used to inoculate, but the co-ops never have the inoculant anymore.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 22,621 Likes: 23
Freak of Nature
|
|
Freak of Nature
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 22,621 Likes: 23 |
Discing with a smaller tractor and disk takes a massive amount of time. Throw and mow is a lifesaver for me doing all the work by myself. And my plots have never looked better, even compared to conventional tillage. But to each his own.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 5,711
12 point
|
|
12 point
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 5,711 |
My pea's and buckwheat have been up since the rains we had a few weeks ago. They're about 4 inches high and holding until we get more rain. I used the throw and drag method. I planted in about 45 minutes versus 3 hours or more using a tractor and disc.
|
|
|
|
|