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I feel like a backwoods hick barbarian these days because I do all my hunting from a climber, and almost never on fields. Even when we leased premium land for 20 years, with powerlines, cutovers, food plots, I "might" hunt from a permanent stand or shooting house once a year. Had a great shooting house on the powerline overlooking a lush greenfield, but from that shooting house I couldn't see what I wanted to see into the woods (nor could I hear the deer). So I would literally climb the power pole 10 yards away from that stupid shooting house.
I went to a club as a guest a couple of weeks ago, hunted three days in a row morning and afternoon, never once took the climber out of the truck. Nothing I've ever done felt as stupid and lazy as sitting on a greenfield in a shooting house in the morning???!!! The whole time I'm thinking, "If I was in that tree right yonder, I could get another 25' higher and see all those woods the left, I could see all those woods to the right, and still see this big food plot here (that no friggin' deer is gonna walk out on till 30 minutes before dark this evening). We'd drive by a mile of the most premium looking cutover, only for him to drop me off on a road and say "walk till this road hits that field, there'll be a shooting house on the left". Drove me nuts. 3000 acres of insanely good land in the Black Belt, and everybody sits in shooting houses on plots morning and evening. LOL, I know a group that is just like that and wonder why they don't see giants everytime they go to the same shooting house for the 30th time this season! What's that definition of insanity again?? On the other hand, it let's me hunt the other 95% of the property.
Last edited by Fun4all; 01/18/19 11:39 AM.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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I see nothing wrong with your post Cdub...well said.
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I feel like a backwoods hick barbarian these days because I do all my hunting from a climber, and almost never on fields. Even when we leased premium land for 20 years, with powerlines, cutovers, food plots, I "might" hunt from a permanent stand or shooting house once a year. Had a great shooting house on the powerline overlooking a lush greenfield, but from that shooting house I couldn't see what I wanted to see into the woods (nor could I hear the deer). So I would literally climb the power pole 10 yards away from that stupid shooting house.
I went to a club as a guest a couple of weeks ago, hunted three days in a row morning and afternoon, never once took the climber out of the truck. Nothing I've ever done felt as stupid and lazy as sitting on a greenfield in a shooting house in the morning???!!! The whole time I'm thinking, "If I was in that tree right yonder, I could get another 25' higher and see all those woods the left, I could see all those woods to the right, and still see this big food plot here (that no friggin' deer is gonna walk out on till 30 minutes before dark this evening). We'd drive by a mile of the most premium looking cutover, only for him to drop me off on a road and say "walk till this road hits that field, there'll be a shooting house on the left". Drove me nuts. 3000 acres of insanely good land in the Black Belt, and everybody sits in shooting houses on plots morning and evening. I visited a club like that once years ago and thought the same thing till I killed a good 10pt one evening there lol ain't my cup of tea but it worked that trip
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Hunt how you want.what you enjoy and i think its a win all the way around. If you get discouraged, change it up. If you are consistent and happy dont fix it if it aint broke.
I have hunted every way i know possible. I love the shooting house method. i love climbing trees and getting high above hot sign. Hell last year i shot a 4yr old 9 point from the ground in a blind i built out of limbs. I think it means more to me that i feel good about what i am doing. Thats when i feel a sense of accomplishment.
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Marksoutdoors, exactly, and plus, its a crap shoot most of the time because of the amount of people, scent and noise going on in those clubs. I had a young 6 pt literally feed 10 yards away from me one time sitting on the ground in the hardwoods. It was quite the rush and kind of scary at the same time knowing he could kill me if he was smart enough. To be eye level with deer is on another level of blood rush.
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BC I can see that you are offended by something or someone has rubbed you the wrong way in the past, but literally I grew up mainly hunting by myself and never really had anyone to really talk much deer hunting with over the years and thats why when I found this page years ago, I just enjoyed reading the daily threads and experiencing everyones excitement and joy from this side of the phone, so I decided to post a thread. I have many, many, many deer under my belt. I have a 152” 10 point from Talladega county I scouted for early season and finally took him in December, BEFORE the rut, sitting on a stump, because I played all the variables correctly, and the stump was literally the only place to sit and that has been the most gratifying kill of my hunting career, so I have taught myself quite a bit from trial and error. I never had anyone whatsoever take me out to the woods and show me what to look for when it comes to trails and food sources, and bedding areas. The ones that did invite me to their clubs, just stuck me on some food plot or cutover no one ever hunted, and yes I killed many bucks but didnt learn anything. I learned to walk to a stand, shooting house or whatever and just wait.
What I love about hunting, its continuously changing (much like everything else) and I love to increase my knowledge of whatever it is I am pssionate about. I love golf, and there are COUNTLESS ways to play the game just like hunting. I have a 2.8 handicap and most people would say, dont change a thing, but I love trying new things just like hunting, (heck im not getting paid to do either so whats it going to hurt) and hunting thick stuff is extremely new to me and I didnt realize I didnt know half about hunting that I thought I knew, at least when it pertains to changing up tactics and habitats. Its been a learning year for me and I was literally making a “serious deer hunting” conversation and your opinion is greatly appreciated if it pertains to the thread subject but Im sure most people would appreciate it if you would just keep your first assumption pessimistic comments to yourself. Not just for this post but others. Very well articulated. However I did give you my opinion in a previous post. Sorry...... nothing personal. I just subscribe to the theory that you should hunt the way you enjoy as long as it's lawful and not have to worry about people looking down their nose at you. I've killed them in cutovers, shooting houses, greenfields, and looking them dead in the eye in a thicket a rabbit might think twice about entering, and I just don't look down my nose at anyone and tell them they aren't "hunting". The President of my club and my Dad like to pull up to areas and watch out the truck window. Not my bag but they seem to enjoy it, and I'd love to see someone tell my dad he wasn't "hunting" by doing it. He's 70 years old and that guy has killed more bucks than CWD lol.
I had this same conversation yesterday with another guy who said you weren't a real hunter if you shot deer long range. I don't understand why it's so difficult to let guys hunt the way they want. You say you want to have serious deer hunting discussion and that very well might be the case, but what you have to understand is the inflow of idiot noobs that come in here every year telling people who are 10 times the hunter they are that "they aren't a real hunter" if they don't do it the way that they do. Maybe I mischaracterized your post, but it certainly had the same condescending feel as the rest of the trolls. If so I apologize. In the last two days we've had two goobers show up wanting to know how everyone felt about shooting deer way after dark, and another one that said you weren't hunting if you shot at deer at long distances. Both were obvious troll attempts, and after two in two days.... well I'm sure you can see where my mindset was when I read this one.
"Some men are mere hunters; others are turkey hunters."
-- Archibald Rutledge
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I don't understand why it's so difficult to let guys hunt the way they want.
Because of ego, mainly, and bullchit.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
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No was actually just st getting thoughts and making conversation. Trust me I love hunting open areas and seeing a long ways but it didnt prepare me for actually getting in a bucks bedroom and possibly taking him at another time of the year than the rut when most people seem to take their bucks. We get these type thread a lot. It's worse during turkey season when noobs that have 10 birds under their belt show up and tell turkey hunters around here that kill 15 birds a year in multiple states that they aren't doing it right if they don't call them up to within 3 feet. Just gets old after you've read 40-50 of them. Sorry...... nothing personal. I just subscribe to the theory that you should hunt the way you enjoy as long as it's lawful and not have to worry about people looking down their nose at you. I've killed them in cutovers, shooting houses, greenfields, and looking them dead in the eye in a thicket a rabbit might think twice about entering, and I just don't look down my nose at anyone and tell them they aren't "hunting". The President of my club and my Dad like to pull up to areas and watch out the truck window. Not my bag but they seem to enjoy it, and I'd love to see someone tell my dad he wasn't "hunting" by doing it. He's 70 years old and that guy has killed more bucks than CWD lol. Exactly! Hunt how you want to hunt. I will hunt woods as much as anybody but I also like to go sit in a shooting house, eat snacks the whole time, and listen to podcasts or audiobooks with me earphones on. I enjoy it every single time I go regardless of how I hunt. If I ever start hating it, I'll just quit completely
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I don't understand why it's so difficult to let guys hunt the way they want.
Because of ego, mainly, and bullchit.
Georgia Football..Acts like Bama but has a trophy case like South Carolina.
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I’m going to hunt where and how I need to hunt in order to kill deer. If that means sitting in a shooting house and waiting to better increase my chances so be it. If that means getting in the woods and hanging off the side of a tree ok. I don’t understand the need to hunt in the woods in order to do it it “right”. I’ll let the deer dictate what I need to do.
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I’m going to hunt where and how I need to hunt in order to kill deer. If that means sitting in a shooting house and waiting to better increase my chances so be it. If that means getting in the woods and hanging off the side of a tree ok. I don’t understand the need to hunt in the woods in order to do it it “right”. I’ll let the deer dictate what I need to do. Same here, along with how I feel that day. Sometimes I want to sit in a nice, dry box and eat snacks and watch a food plot, which I don't consider hunting but am fine with it. Other times (mostly, nowadays), I'd rather try to solve a piece of the puzzle and be in the woods on a tree or ground blind. Some days I take my .30-30 or crossbow or bow or .44 Mag or rifle. Might change my mind and take the .22 and squirrel hunt. Just depends on how I feel that day. Indians drove animals over cliffs and used fire and did whatever they needed to survive, yet we hold them up to some idylic standard. Same with Daniel Boone and Davy Crockett - they did what they needed to do to survive. Fred Bear, the godfather of archery, baited deer and bears to shoot them. He'd be called a POS cheater and "not a real hunter" today for those things. Yet he's idolized and deified as what we should aspire to. Enjoy how you hunt, and do it legally and ethically.
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"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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I’ve killed at least a quarter of my deer just slipping around the woods, slowly, in random places. I’ve killed very few during rifle season hunting hot sign. Cameras have often revealed that almost all of my hot sign happens at night in many places and I just cannot afford (time wise) to sit on it all day/every day on the chance that biggin will come by during daylight hours. During the rut we kill deer we’ve never seen before. I do enjoy, and have been quite successful, hunting productive oaks during bow season but I’ve been just as successful hunting over a small plot in the afternoon with my bow. I may not know what is going to show but the chance for an animal is strong.
I think one of the best parts of hunting in general is the opportunity to learn and improve your techniques and skills with a variety of game and terrain. The most successful hunters have a deep bag of tricks to pull from, but sometimes you just want to sit in a house and watch a field.
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Wish I'd been in the woods this morning here. Misty, foggy, quiet. Love those mornings, slipping around, leaning against a tree, watching and listening, moving on.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
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Age pushes me closer to the Shooting House every year as much as I hate it!!!!!
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With a padded chair.............................
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and a buddy heater............
It takes a long time to grow an old friend.
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you old farts 
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I like to do both, but it is more fulfilling to me if I scout and kill a buck vs waiting one out from a stand I've hunted for 15 years. But there are those good days in that old stand when you can just sit and watch deer all day. That's pretty dang fun too
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Is it "real hunting" if I use a ladder stand or a climber, or do I have to grow my toenails out real long so I can climb the tree without any assistance?
If you are in the outdoors, pursuing wild game, with a slingshot/big rock/handgun/rifle/muzzleloader/recurve/longbow/compound/crossbow/spear/atlatl, then you are hunting. Sorry if I left out anyone's weapon of choice.
You, and you alone, determine your personal level of satisfaction with what you are doing. Personally, whether I am in a ladder stand, shooting house, tree seat, or ground blind, I'm hunting, and I am grateful for every animal that I see, and especially grateful when I get to shoot/take/harvest/kill one for the table. See, all them words work too, even if someone else don't like'em.
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