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deerfeeder89 #2708705 01/17/19 08:53 AM
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The Flippin’ Idiot That Could Care Less
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I hate them things. Seems like they been growin in numbers. I always heard they would get a calf. We never had a problem in new market with over 100 head i was younger.

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"buzzard's gotta eat, same as a man ..."

seriously, though, vultures seem to be far more aggressive nowadays. i'm no cattleman, never have been. i only know what i see on the highway and in the woods. i've seen more vultures run over and/or hit by vehicles in the past five years than i have seen in my previous 47 years of driving. they just do not leave a carcass as fast as they used to leave. caution to the wind. maybe competition with coyotes has driven the change in behavior ...


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Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
Will burros keep the buzzards away like they will with coyotes?



My donkeys, 5 of them, won't do anything but look at coyote. I've seen coyote go right between them and they just watch. But my donkeys have been raised with dogs around them, right nose to nose from birth so that may be the difference.

None of our cows or anyone I know of has ever had a calf killed by a coyote. The coyote will eat the after birth occassionally. Wild dogs are a different story.

We have had spurts of buzzards killing newborns. For whatever reason some years are bad and some years they leave them alone.

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I had a few cows years ago and you dang sure had to watch the buzzards. The cows would usually go into a pine thicket to have the calves, but the buzzards would be flying over and work their way into the thick pines. I would usually get the shotgun with some turkey loads and walk back there to scare them off.......... I'm not sure if a buzzard could see well enough to see the cows having calves or if they smelled them. I saw a show years ago about some west coast buzzards that could smell, they hid some carcasses under stuff and the buzzards would go straight to them.

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I like FREDs answer, short and to the point, SHOOT EM.

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Shot a big boar hog about 180 yds from my stand on a food plot early in hunt and decided to let it lay and continue hunt; buzzards were eating the eyes out in 5 minutes. Like they herd the shot. I have read comments here they. buzzards and totes will not touch a wild pig? Not the case at all where I hunt.


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Originally Posted by king
I like FREDs answer, short and to the point, SHOOT EM.



Some things that happens in this world should not be advertised on the WWW.

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Lost one of 35 new borns back in Sept to buzzards here at the house. Not mine but a friend who leases the pasture.


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Wasn’t me


"Hell with them fellows, buzzard got to eat same as a worm"
Josey Wales

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Got a .22-250 I'd let go of cheap TC Venture shoot lights out not a scratch on it. A friend told me it was good on buzzards and other winged vermin. Great truck gun.


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you can get a permit to shoot em if they are killing calves.


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Originally Posted by centralala
Originally Posted by king
I like FREDs answer, short and to the point, SHOOT EM.



Some things that happens in this world should not be advertised on the WWW.

They'll naturally disappear grin

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Originally Posted by BhamFred
shoot em


That's what I'd do. Ev'a dang one of em. I'd bet it's Black Vultures killing the calves. I've never seen Turkey Vultures do that.


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Glad you posted about the Black Vultures Brad. Had to look that up, Link below Posted: Fri 10:59 AM, Nov 23, 2018

https://www.ky3.com/content/news/Me...ng-calves-across-Missouri-501135981.html


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I'd never heard of Black Vultures either. Growing up, I spent a lot of time on my uncles dairy farm and can't recall a Turkey Vulture ever killing a calf.

A quick hijack - I watched a NatGeo show about Vultures and learned what an integral part of our ecosystem Vultures really are. Without them around to stop the spread of disease, through the years, mankind could have taken a massive hit. The things that their system can tolerate is mind boggling. Anthrax being one of them.

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We lost a calf last week as well to them. have had 2 more born and we've had to stay around it until the mother cleans up the after birth.

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Originally Posted by centralala
Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
Will burros keep the buzzards away like they will with coyotes?



My donkeys, 5 of them, won't do anything but look at coyote. I've seen coyote go right between them and they just watch. But my donkeys have been raised with dogs around them, right nose to nose from birth so that may be the difference.

None of our cows or anyone I know of has ever had a calf killed by a coyote. The coyote will eat the after birth occassionally. Wild dogs are a different story.

We have had spurts of buzzards killing newborns. For whatever reason some years are bad and some years they leave them alone.

Having 5 is your problem, being raised with dog's probably don't help any either. Multiple donkeys in a pasture will not guard a flock. You need 1 for that. Even 2 will mind to each other and forget everything else, 1 is usually a coyote killing machine. Don't know how they would do with vultures though.

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I passed a guys pasture a while back and there was 8 or 10 buzzards sitting around behind a cow and one sitting on her back facing her rear end. I had never seen that before. I have been told by cattle farmers around here the black headed buzzards will kill a calf.

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Shoot as many of the nasty things as you can evertime you see one siting in the pasture and they will stop, if you have a batch that ain’t ever had some bullets passing through their buddies sitting around they are brave. They will start acting like buzzards again and leave your cows alone.

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I've had calves killed by coyotes but I was in the stocker business so no momma cows present. Had a donkey, he was worthless. Best guard animal I had was a llama. Never had a buzzard kill when we had cow calf operation though but never saw the black headed one either.

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