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Use the 223. CNC’s tracking thread has been slow this season. 
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." -G. K. Chesterton
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30 calibers give you more margin for error I think. Saying that I have total confidence in 270 and 7’mm mags also Just my opinion but Alabama deer are some of the heartiest deer I’ve ever hunted. Even being smaller in size it takes more to anchor them to the ground. I’ve had 60 pound does splatter the ground then get back up and run 100 yards before dying. Some I even shot again just to try to keep them from getting away lol. Just my 2 cents Yep....30-cal should be the minimum for those hard to kill 60# does 
You're only as good as your worst shot-
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Pumpkin - The Thermal Expert
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![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/gYeeOcQ.jpg) 223 fusion 62gr, shot at about 75yds, went 40yds downhill and crashed. No exit wound, wouldnt have helped alot if it had as I was shooting up a pretty steep hill. Tore his insides up something awful.
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30 calibers give you more margin for error I think. Saying that I have total confidence in 270 and 7’mm mags also Just my opinion but Alabama deer are some of the heartiest deer I’ve ever hunted. Even being smaller in size it takes more to anchor them to the ground. I’ve had 60 pound does splatter the ground then get back up and run 100 yards before dying. Some I even shot again just to try to keep them from getting away lol. Just my 2 cents Yep....30-cal should be the minimum for those hard to kill 60# does  Interesting. And those are exactly the specs where I read this round is well-suited for killing deer cleanly and effectively.
Scientist and Author, Fly Fishing for Redeye Bass: An Adventure Across Southern Waters and Alabama's Best Fly Fishing ------------------------------------------------- "I do not hunt turkeys because I want to, I hunt them because I have to." - Tom Kelly
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You're only as good as your worst shot-
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I wouldn't want to shoot at a deer with anything smaller than a .243 if lightweight is your goal get a youth model .243 I carry my sons savage youth .243 sometimes when I need a light compact rifle.
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You can kill them with a rock, a spear or a sharp stick, but that's not your best option
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I've killed a few with mine with no issues I load 53gr tsx. My boy killed his first with my 14.5in upper dropped it at 100 and some change. ![[Linked Image]](http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u141/will6101/20170107_172330_zpsqz8qt6vt.jpg)
Keep your booger hooker off the bang switch.
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Freak of Nature
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The 223 will kill deer all day long, provided you make a good shot with a bullet designed for larger animals, not varmints. Just put that bullet in the crease behind the shoulder and deer is dead.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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I use a 62g TTSX, never any issues including the 90 lb doe I dropped today
I don't want to pass quietly into the night. I want to slide in sideways kickin and screamin Life really is awesome ... Soak it up while you can ...
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I prefer a 375 h&h mag myself....because why tha heck not. 
"I dont quit.. And ill fight alone if i have to"
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Freak of Nature
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I prefer a 375 h&h mag myself....because why tha heck not.  I shoot one sometimes, same reason.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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I prefer a 375 h&h mag myself....because why tha heck not.  I shoot one sometimes, same reason. I was just playin..ive shot one but not at a deer..seenem shot with one tho..theyll poke a nice big hole in one
"I dont quit.. And ill fight alone if i have to"
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Freak of Nature
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I have a Rem 700 stainless lightweight 375H&H. Kick is pretty fast. I've killed a half dozen deer with it. Killed a half dozen animals in Zimbabwe with a Sako I had up to a 1800 pound Eland. Killed a 30 pound note once and blew the off shoulder out the dinner plate size exit hole. LOL Doesn't kill deer as fast as a 270Win though.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Here we go Fred mentioned 270win LOL...
Seriously I’ve seen and helped track a few kilt with a 223 it’ll kill them but their are better tools out there.
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The Flippin’ Idiot That Could Care Less
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Pass the popcorn .....  You can and all that. Kills a ton. No doubt. But as a buddy of mine says, why would you use a skwerl gun? .308, 30-06, .270 just knocks bigger hole and you’re more likely to have 2 holes, entry and exit. Reason I got rid of the .243 was I always worried “What if Mr. Big steps out? Is it enough?” Why worry? Yeup!
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Here we go Fred mentioned 270win LOL...
Seriously I’ve seen and helped track a few kilt with a 223 it’ll kill them but their are better tools out there. I am not arguing there are better tools in general, but if you stay within the limits of a .223 (distance, correct grain ammo, shot placement) it's still an adequate tool. There's only so much one can learn from reading the interwebs, I wanted to hear from folks that have done it. As this thread illustrates, plenty of hunters made ethical shots within the limitations of a .223 round and had zero issues.
Scientist and Author, Fly Fishing for Redeye Bass: An Adventure Across Southern Waters and Alabama's Best Fly Fishing ------------------------------------------------- "I do not hunt turkeys because I want to, I hunt them because I have to." - Tom Kelly
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Here we go Fred mentioned 270win LOL...
Seriously I’ve seen and helped track a few kilt with a 223 it’ll kill them but their are better tools out there. I am not arguing there are better tools in general, but if you stay within the limits of a .223 (distance, correct grain ammo, shot placement) it's still an adequate tool. There's only so much one can learn from reading the interwebs, I wanted to hear from folks that have done it. As this thread illustrates, plenty of hunters made ethical shots within the limitations of a .223 round and had zero issues. And there's your answer ... Yes you can kill deer with a 223 but you have got to be responsible and know your limitations and the gun's limitations. Kudos to you for reaching out and asking for experience from those that have actually hunted with a 223
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I don't want to pass quietly into the night. I want to slide in sideways kickin and screamin Life really is awesome ... Soak it up while you can ...
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Freak of Nature
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What are the advantages of a .223 if you already have a .308? Maybe a gun that is 1 pound lighter?
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What are the advantages of a .223 if you already have a .308? Maybe a gun that is 1 pound lighter? Two fold, currently my .223 is more accurate, way better groupings than my .308, although the .308 isn't bad, just not as good as the .223. And yes, it's quite a bit lighter. I haven't weighed them, but the .223 is smaller and lighter, noticeably so. Given that I am going to be hunting on the ground more, I can support and steady my aim way better with the lighter .223 than the heavier .308. Just yesterday I stood up and walked to a fence line to peer down to the bottom field I couldn't see while sitting. Once I got up and moved, deer came out from the other side and I was stuck. Had I shot, it would have been a standing shot with no brace. So while I may be limited if a big buck walked out 200 yds away, I feel confident in my shot in a standing stance at 100 yds or less with a .223. Again, I know my limits and realize I am shooting a smaller caliber and not a .308, so I am not the type of person that will push my luck and risk an unethical shot. I'm a PhD student, so just buying a lighter large caliber gun isn't an option right now.
Scientist and Author, Fly Fishing for Redeye Bass: An Adventure Across Southern Waters and Alabama's Best Fly Fishing ------------------------------------------------- "I do not hunt turkeys because I want to, I hunt them because I have to." - Tom Kelly
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