Originally Posted by BhamFred
whyinthecornbreadhell do you want to shoot a cartridge that you have to worry about its "limitations"????

limitation...it doesn't kill as well. Period. You have to take into consideration the size of the deer, angle of shot, distance, etc, etc. Shoot a deer rifle that will get the job done.


Well, it is limiting in angle, distance, etc. It doesn't kill as well if you try to shoot it like you're shooting a .308, .270, etc. However, if you know your limitations, I would disagree with it doesn't kill as well. Just like archery hunters know their limitations with an arrow, which obviously doesn't kill as well as a .308. They shoot at appropriate distances, etc. It comes down to the individual hunter's decision of knowing what is a high-success kill shot, and can it be made?

From what I've read:
1) It can fully stop oxygen production by taking out heart and lungs, which of course depends on shot placement, but that is important no matter the caliber.
2) Using the right grain bullet (>60 grain), at 100 yards or less, there is plenty of energy to accomplish the above.

So again, I am curious if anyone has actually killed deer with a .223 on here and what the result was? This is something I plan on learning way more about before I would every try it, but I am curious.


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