I have never shot a deer with my 223 but my daughter is 2 for 2 and my son is 4 for 4 with it. I however have killed a truckload of of hogs from 10lbs to over 250lbs with it. Some were DRT and some ran a ways and died. My son now shoots my 6.8 or 6.5 Grendel. Next season my daughter will step up to the 6.8 or the 7.62x39 if she don't get a nice 243 bolt action for her birthday.


It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.