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For who is an outlaw and who is not, think about this: Compare the fine for not reporting to GC vs. the fine for speeding. If you speed at any point, according to the fines, you are much more of an outlaw vs. someone not using GC. Breaking the law is breaking the law and we all do it at one time or another.
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lay it on em Scott.....
one more time..there ain't no such damn law. Amen to that. As the saying goes “ know the law and don’t pay....don’t know the law and do pay”
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself
The older I get the better I used to be
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1. there is no law/reg that prohibits drinking while hunting. A case could be made for reckless endangerment IF you are drunk and doing something reckless with a firearm. 2. there is no law prohibiting having a fully loaded long gun in/on any vehicle.( Bham PD does not know this and may arrest you for "having a gun".....) other than Bham  you can lay a fully loaded rifle on the dash and drive thru Montgomery legally. You can drive all over yer land with it there. You can drive around the club likewise. GW tells you it is illegal TELL HIM TO SHOW YOU THE LAW/REG. It doesn't exist. 3. It is illegal to hunt with the aid of a motor vehicle. It used to be enforced all around, no sitting on/in while hunting. That changed around 1985-1990, allowing you to park on the gas line, engine running while hunting. (kind of like the "salt is legal" enforcement. If you are driving around a big pasture looking for deer, stopping and glassing, sticking gun out the window to look, you could be arrested for hunting from a motor vehicle. Shooting from a public road from the vehicle could get you a public road ticket, motor vehicle ticket, permit ticket (if on someone else land with no permission). Number 3 is not correct - as long as the vehicle's motor is shut off you can hunt from it. Per Alabama regulation 220-2-.02 - Persons may hunt from a floating craft or motor vehicle once the motor is shut off and all forward motion has ceased. It is not legal to hunt from a vehicle on a public road. Groundwawg, I believe you need to go back and reread B'hamFred's post, done it before, this time a little slower. Ask me how I know.
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1. there is no law/reg that prohibits drinking while hunting. A case could be made for reckless endangerment IF you are drunk and doing something reckless with a firearm. 2. there is no law prohibiting having a fully loaded long gun in/on any vehicle.( Bham PD does not know this and may arrest you for "having a gun".....) other than Bham you can lay a fully loaded rifle on the dash and drive thru Montgomery legally. You can drive all over yer land with it there. You can drive around the club likewise. GW tells you it is illegal TELL HIM TO SHOW YOU THE LAW/REG. It doesn't exist. 3. It is illegal to hunt with the aid of a motor vehicle. It used to be enforced all around, no sitting on/in while hunting. That changed around 1985-1990, allowing you to park on the gas line, engine running while hunting. (kind of like the "salt is legal" enforcement. If you are driving around a big pasture looking for deer, stopping and glassing, sticking gun out the window to look, you could be arrested for hunting from a motor vehicle. Shooting from a public road from the vehicle could get you a public road ticket, motor vehicle ticket, permit ticket (if on someone else land with no permission). Number 3 is not correct - as long as the vehicle's motor is shut off you can hunt from it. Per Alabama regulation 220-2-.02 - Persons may hunt from a floating craft or motor vehicle once the motor is shut off and all forward motion has ceased. It is not legal to hunt from a vehicle on a public road. Groundwawg, I believe you need to go back and reread B'hamFred's post, done it before, this time a little slower. Ask me how I know. Is this what you do at work or are you home watching the Hallmark channel? At least I have an excuse. You haven't seen me lately and may be awhile.
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1. there is no law/reg that prohibits drinking while hunting. A case could be made for reckless endangerment IF you are drunk and doing something reckless with a firearm. 2. there is no law prohibiting having a fully loaded long gun in/on any vehicle.( Bham PD does not know this and may arrest you for "having a gun".....) other than Bham you can lay a fully loaded rifle on the dash and drive thru Montgomery legally. You can drive all over yer land with it there. You can drive around the club likewise. GW tells you it is illegal TELL HIM TO SHOW YOU THE LAW/REG. It doesn't exist. 3. It is illegal to hunt with the aid of a motor vehicle. It used to be enforced all around, no sitting on/in while hunting. That changed around 1985-1990, allowing you to park on the gas line, engine running while hunting. (kind of like the "salt is legal" enforcement. If you are driving around a big pasture looking for deer, stopping and glassing, sticking gun out the window to look, you could be arrested for hunting from a motor vehicle. Shooting from a public road from the vehicle could get you a public road ticket, motor vehicle ticket, permit ticket (if on someone else land with no permission). Number 3 is not correct - as long as the vehicle's motor is shut off you can hunt from it. Per Alabama regulation 220-2-.02 - Persons may hunt from a floating craft or motor vehicle once the motor is shut off and all forward motion has ceased. It is not legal to hunt from a vehicle on a public road. Groundwawg, I believe you need to go back and reread B'hamFred's post, done it before, this time a little slower. Ask me how I know. Is this what you do at work or are you home watching the Hallmark channel? At least I have an excuse. You haven't seen me lately and may be awhile. This is what I do when I am off work and in between projects at the house, Might just hear more from me off till Jan 8 2019
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While guns and drinking may not be illegal, it's a really stupid idea. I'll be one of the first ones to pop a cold one when we get back to camp, but I have no desire to be in the woods with somebody drinking and holding a high power rifle. ...or a shotgun. But good luck telling folks this. They'll tell you "I've never had a problem". I've never had a drinking while hunting problem. I've got tons of experience, at both, and I'm probably an expert hunting drinker by now. I've honed my skill to perfection.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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GW’s need to remember that not every hunter is an outlaw. I bet more than 50% are. So one out every two people who post here is an outlaw? To be an Aldeer Outlaw, does one simply have to break 1 law....just 1 time? Or is there a minimum number of laws broken, or a frequency, that is required to be labeled an Aldeer Outlaw? Does that label include a special window decal besides the regular sticker? As the Aldeer Outlaw leader, I'll clarify that for you. To qualify as an Aldeer Outlaw, one must refuse to comply with at least one law, or game regulation, everyday. However, if in the course of said violation, you happen to kill an enviable deer or turkey then you automatically attain Outlaw status upon said offense.
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I think to be an official ALDEER outlaw you have to put a "1%er" decal next to you ALDEER Sticker. Or is it "50%er" ?
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Used to be one in Lauderdale that was a terrible person. What I saw him do to a lady in Florence should have gotten the fat arse fired.
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I’m am going to say again. Their is no law making it illegal to have a loaded long gun in your vehicle no matter if you are on private or public property. No suck law exist. Long guns are not covered under a pistol license (CCP). The law specifically says, it is illegal to carry a handgun in a vehicle unless it is unloaded and stored, or you have a permit. It says nothing about long guns.
Again, I don’t care what a GW told you, I don’t care what you think, I don’t care what your daddy always said. There is no crime in having a loaded long gun in your vehicle.
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1. there is no law/reg that prohibits drinking while hunting. A case could be made for reckless endangerment IF you are drunk and doing something reckless with a firearm. 2. there is no law prohibiting having a fully loaded long gun in/on any vehicle.( Bham PD does not know this and may arrest you for "having a gun".....) other than Bham you can lay a fully loaded rifle on the dash and drive thru Montgomery legally. You can drive all over yer land with it there. You can drive around the club likewise. GW tells you it is illegal TELL HIM TO SHOW YOU THE LAW/REG. It doesn't exist. 3. It is illegal to hunt with the aid of a motor vehicle. It used to be enforced all around, no sitting on/in while hunting. That changed around 1985-1990, allowing you to park on the gas line, engine running while hunting. (kind of like the "salt is legal" enforcement. If you are driving around a big pasture looking for deer, stopping and glassing, sticking gun out the window to look, you could be arrested for hunting from a motor vehicle. Shooting from a public road from the vehicle could get you a public road ticket, motor vehicle ticket, permit ticket (if on someone else land with no permission). Number 3 is not correct - as long as the vehicle's motor is shut off you can hunt from it. Per Alabama regulation 220-2-.02 - Persons may hunt from a floating craft or motor vehicle once the motor is shut off and all forward motion has ceased. It is not legal to hunt from a vehicle on a public road. as per that reg it is still illegal to hunt by aid of motor vehicle, like I stated above. Late 80's enforcement changed to allow sitting in a stationary vehicle and later reg wording was changed to reflect that enforcement. Now enforcement allows sitting in vehicle with motor running as I remember from before I retired. May be different now.
Last edited by BhamFred; 12/17/18 02:03 PM.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Yeah, the reg definitely says motor off, and not moving.
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Yeah, the reg definitely says motor off, and not moving. That is what I have always understood - from reading the regs.
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But motor on and moving is a lot funner
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But motor on and moving is a lot funner And if it is a coyote it is totally legit.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
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Yeah, the reg definitely says motor off, and not moving. That is what I have always understood - from reading the regs. Fred's point, I believe, is the regulation is not law. In fact it contradicts the law. But that's kinda like a warning ticket, if they don't enforce it then the regulation becomes law.
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Yeah, the reg definitely says motor off, and not moving. There’s gotta be some jack legg out there with a 5.7 vortec, and a steel brush guard doing 50 down a dirt road just hoping for a deer to jump out in the road. But that’s probably legal.
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Yeah, the reg definitely says motor off, and not moving. There’s gotta be some jack legg out there with a 5.7 vortec, and a steel brush guard doing 50 down a dirt road just hoping for a deer to jump out in the road. But that’s probably legal. Probably some dude with Cajun roots. They like instant tenderization.
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Yeah, the reg definitely says motor off, and not moving. There’s gotta be some jack legg out there with a 5.7 vortec, and a steel brush guard doing 50 down a dirt road just hoping for a deer to jump out in the road. But that’s probably legal. It's legal, but expensive. I've done it twice. The brush guards won't save headlights and quarter panels, when a fat doe catches one corner and spins around to slap the front fender. The last one even got my passenger door and mirror.
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Impatient Stinky Britches Wearin’ Off-Roadin’ Guru
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Yeah, the reg definitely says motor off, and not moving. There’s gotta be some jack legg out there with a 5.7 vortec, and a steel brush guard doing 50 down a dirt road just hoping for a deer to jump out in the road. But that’s probably legal. Well, technically, I believe any public road without a POSTED speed limit is something like 30 or 35mph, by default......so BOOM...Illegal.
There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:
1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
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