I used the throw and wait method in several acres of dead soybeans next to drilled plots in early October. Drilled plots emerged within 3 days and are 6” tall. Throw plots are barely starting to emerge. Going to look at plots Sunday afternoon. If I don’t have good emergence by then I will drill through beans. Read an article published this put out by Alabama Extention Service that says 10/30 is optimal time to plant small grains in central and North Alabama. Most folks plant too early. Deer are attracted to young tender plots better than 2-3 month old plots. I’m not a bow hunter. Also think deer will finish acorns before hitting plots