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Yep. Same here. I'd still plant after the rain. Got good moisture now.

When we are planting should we throw the Cereal Rye, Oats and Peas out then mow and top dress with clover seed?

Want to make sure the clover isn't covered too deep with the thatch.

You don't want it hung up in the thatch either. Which it could if spread after cut. All clover needs is to touch the soil

Without spraying and just doing the throw and mow this early.Seems to me the grass would still have enough time to come back in South Alabama? Just asking. Seeing everybody else planting has gave me the itch to jump out there and put some seed to the ground

You’re probably right. I’d wait a couple more weeks if not spraying.

A lot of it depends on what types of grass you’re dealing with……any crabgrass in my field is dead as a hammer now and brown. Things like Bermuda, Bahia, nutsedge are what will come back on you without spraying. If you have a lot of those then you might want to burn it down with some gly. The later you wait to plant the better if you’re not gonna spray. I’d wait until the first week of Oct to plant. If you’re not a big bow hunter then waiting until the second or third week would be even better when not spraying.

Having some kick back from some of my members who don’t want to throw and mow. They say it’s too thick and the seed won’t make it to the soil. We sprayed all our fields the last two weekends and are getting ready to plant in the next few weeks in south Alabama.

It's gonna have to be extremely thick to smother out cereal grains....I've yet to do it and I've put down some super THICK crops of crabgrass. I bet you'll be fine.

Do half and half...

What type of summer vegetation are you dealing with???

Rag weed, Johnson grass and some others I don’t know.. mostly rag weed

Broadleafs won’t make nearly as much thatch as what it looks like when they’re green. The seed will be fine. I've never seen a situation where I thought someone failed because the seed "got hung up" in the thatch.

I’m dealing with some extremely thick bahia grass on our new place and it has me a little concerned. I'm worried about it having too much of a mat formed across the surface. I’m thinking it may take me knocking it back this fall and next spring to break it’s stranglehold….It’s nearly a monoculture right now.

Well I should have planted this weekend. Meteorologists backed off the rain chances to 30% so I didn't and we got dumped on this evening. I guess we will wait on the next one

The T&M turnips and rape I planted in mid August look awesome. On ground that hasn't been turned in 10 years. Was nothing but weeds.

Awesome!!… ........Pics??

I agree with CNC, broadleafs don't make near the thatch that geass does. I've done T&M into thick, dead matted down crabgrass and was worried the seed wouldn't make it to the ground, but it did. I pulled back the thatch after making one round and seed was on the soil. The rain will wash seed to the ground, as well. How do ya'll think weeds and grasses spread their seed? They been doing it for millions of years without us disking.

I'm 7 days into my first try at T&M in a not sprayed weed field. There are a tons of seeds coming up (brassica, wheat, clovers). If my coverage rate was ok, which it looks to be, I think this week of sunshine will do massive things to those small plants. I'm going to hit it with fertilizer ahead of the next good chance of rain. I'm doing a much larger field (2 acre) that has been sprayed previous next Monday with grains and clover. I'll try to post some pics, but I've never put one up on here.

Try the site below for posting pics. It's pretty straight forward and easy to use. Click on "choose images" and then select your pic.

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First try with throw and mow at the new place. But second year using the technique.
I actually mowed before I seeded. I had sprayed 3-4 weeks before. Got some good rain on these seeds. Austrian winter peas even sprouted!

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I got all but 2 fields planted this weekend, got a solid 3/4 of inch rain on them last night. one field I sprayed a week ago and and it was nothing but briars and persimmon tree samplings mixed with some other broadleafs, sowed the seed right into in and bushhogged it. really interested to see how it does