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What are yall spraying with? 41% GLY from TSC or Round up? I don't know if the 41% Gly is as strong as the roundup. It's cheaper but I think its a little weaker. I put 2.5 gallons in my 40 gallon sprayer and use the boom. It works but just seems to take a while.
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What are yall spraying with? 41% GLY from TSC or Round up? I don't know if the 41% Gly is as strong as the roundup. It's cheaper but I think its a little weaker. I put 2.5 gallons in my 40 gallon sprayer and use the boom. It works but just seems to take a while. Way, way overkill on the rate. 41% of the same ingredient in the same size container is going to be the same, regardless of brand.
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What are yall spraying with? 41% GLY from TSC or Round up? I don't know if the 41% Gly is as strong as the roundup. It's cheaper but I think its a little weaker. I put 2.5 gallons in my 40 gallon sprayer and use the boom. It works but just seems to take a while. Way, way overkill on the rate. 41% of the same ingredient in the same size container is going to be the same, regardless of brand. Yep. That’s a nuclear bomb concentration.
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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What are yall spraying with? 41% GLY from TSC or Round up? I don't know if the 41% Gly is as strong as the roundup. It's cheaper but I think its a little weaker. I put 2.5 gallons in my 40 gallon sprayer and use the boom. It works but just seems to take a while. Way, way overkill on the rate. 41% of the same ingredient in the same size container is going to be the same, regardless of brand. Yep. That’s a nuclear bomb concentration. What ratio do y'all use?
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2 oz of gly per gallon of water.
Would walk over a naked woman to get to a gobblin turkey!
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Puts sugar in his cornbread!
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2 oz of gly per gallon of water.
I do like it strong.
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What are yall spraying with? 41% GLY from TSC or Round up? I don't know if the 41% Gly is as strong as the roundup. It's cheaper but I think its a little weaker. I put 2.5 gallons in my 40 gallon sprayer and use the boom. It works but just seems to take a while. Holy cow dude. That's 4X the recommended rate. You don't see any effect until 7-10 days after spraying.
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What are yall spraying with? 41% GLY from TSC or Round up? I don't know if the 41% Gly is as strong as the roundup. It's cheaper but I think its a little weaker. I put 2.5 gallons in my 40 gallon sprayer and use the boom. It works but just seems to take a while. Way, way overkill on the rate. 41% of the same ingredient in the same size container is going to be the same, regardless of brand. There’s actually lots of differences between the cheap generic brands you buy for $39/jug at discount stores versus brand name product Roundup Pro Concentrate, Weathermax, Accord XRT, etc. % concentrate can be misleading as # of salt per gallon of product (active ingredients) vary from 3#/gal in the cheap stuff, up to 6#/gal for the premium brand. So if you apply 2 Oz/gal of a 41% 3# product it is equivalent to 1oz/gal of the premium product. The premium products are blended at facilities that (in general) know what they are doing. I bet your grandmother makes cornbread better than I do. Glyphosate products are the same. Cheap products can separate in solution and don’t mix as well. Also name brand products contain a full surfactant package that would have to be added to the cheaper product Nearly all herbicide professionals (farmers, row contractors, etc) use name brand products for a reason. The time and cost of respraying costs more than using name brand products. I use both cheap (Cornerstone S) and premium (Roundup Pro Concentrate and Accord XRT) by the tote - 265 gallons each. Both products serve same purpose but don’t be fooled by price and % concentrate alone. Read the labels and then do the math
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I been using the cheap stuff for over 20 years with no problem. Takes 7-10 days to see any effect. I sprayed 2 weeks ago and planted Saturday. We're supposed to get rain this week and by the time it sprouts the cooler weather should be here.
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Somebody needs to tell my weeds they shouldn’t be dying like they are since I’m using store brand.
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What are yall spraying with? 41% GLY from TSC or Round up? I don't know if the 41% Gly is as strong as the roundup. It's cheaper but I think its a little weaker. I put 2.5 gallons in my 40 gallon sprayer and use the boom. It works but just seems to take a while. Way, way overkill on the rate. 41% of the same ingredient in the same size container is going to be the same, regardless of brand. There’s actually lots of differences between the cheap generic brands you buy for $39/jug at discount stores versus brand name product Roundup Pro Concentrate, Weathermax, Accord XRT, etc. % concentrate can be misleading as # of salt per gallon of product (active ingredients) vary from 3#/gal in the cheap stuff, up to 6#/gal for the premium brand. So if you apply 2 Oz/gal of a 41% 3# product it is equivalent to 1oz/gal of the premium product. The premium products are blended at facilities that (in general) know what they are doing. I bet your grandmother makes cornbread better than I do. Glyphosate products are the same. Cheap products can separate in solution and don’t mix as well. Also name brand products contain a full surfactant package that would have to be added to the cheaper product Nearly all herbicide professionals (farmers, row contractors, etc) use name brand products for a reason. The time and cost of respraying costs more than using name brand products. I use both cheap (Cornerstone S) and premium (Roundup Pro Concentrate and Accord XRT) by the tote - 265 gallons each. Both products serve same purpose but don’t be fooled by price and % concentrate alone. Read the labels and then do the math Scruggs sells a 2.5 gallon for $29 here and it works just fine. They sell thousands of gallons of it to farmers by the tote for even cheaper.
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But y'all don't get it. Like riverwood is trying to say on large scale farming when your living depends on it its pennies per acre difference. Better farmers pay a bit more for crop safety and performance guarantee and lower use rates. We see up here 40-48 oz of generic is needed to perform like 30-32 oz of powermax does. Don't sound like much but do the math spraying 5500 acres 4-6 times a crop year
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But y'all don't get it. Like riverwood is trying to say on large scale farming when your living depends on it its pennies per acre difference. Better farmers pay a bit more for crop safety and performance guarantee and lower use rates. We see up here 40-48 oz of generic is needed to perform like 30-32 oz of powermax does. Don't sound like much but do the math spraying 5500 acres 4-6 times a crop year Isn’t powermax a higher % glyphosate?
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Compared to 41% 3# salt for cheapest generics. Both do same things but very different product
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Saying all gly products are same is like saying that a 1/2” ratchet from Harbor Freight is same as 1/2” off the Snap On truck. Both do the same job but the one from HF is much cheaper
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River, I completely agree, but I also don't belive someone who uses hand tools every now and then needs snap on tools. I have a set of cheap tools that I use often that my kids bought me about 25 years ago and they still work just fine.
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Agree. Point I’m trying share is that sometimes paying $52/jug is actually a better value than the $29 jug and it’s cheaper to do it to spray once
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Good discussion guys. My comment above was half tongue in cheek. Pretty big difference between a professional farmer and someone like myself with hardly any budget and a deer hobby. I'm not going to turn down Tractor Supply glyphosate...especially when they mark it down 50%.
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