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Freak of Nature
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Someone is wanting an arguement Very true. The OP first post is glaring.
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Do you think that person you are allowing to break the laws are not going to draw social security? welfare? alimony? You are wrong. Enforce the law equally or get a new profession. I though you were kidding, now I see that you are just an idiot. Sorry for the mistake. troy
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Do you think that person you are allowing to break the laws are not going to draw social security? welfare? alimony? You are wrong. Enforce the law equally or get a new profession. I though you were kidding, now I see that you are just an idiot. Sorry for the mistake. troy Check mate
Lead, follow or get the HELL outa the way!
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Do you think that person you are allowing to break the laws are not going to draw social security? welfare? alimony? You are wrong. Enforce the law equally or get a new profession. I though you were kidding, now I see that you are just an idiot. Sorry for the mistake. troy And I thought you were a game warden but I have found out otherwise. Keep your apology to yourself.
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Grow up Reb,i guess you never tried to get out of a ticket. Laws should be enforced with a little mercy when needed. Grow up.
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Its called officer discretion! Officers are hired to enforce laws. Legislators are hired to write laws. The next time you are pulled over by a LEO for failure to use a turn signal and he wants to give you a warning, tell the officer that you dont believe in officer discretion and would like for him to do his job and go ahead and give you a ticket. Or if your speeding taking your kid with a broken arm to the emergency room, the officer gives you an escort instead of sitting on the side of the highway for twenty minutes running your license and tag. Been there done that.
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So now society wants to give discretion of the law to individual officer choice. Why not give all legislation powers to the officer?
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Again have you ever tried to worm out of a ticket ?
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LEOs have to have some discretion. They cant give tickets to every speeding car, or every J-walker. Its being human and using common sense. You just want to argue.
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Again have you ever tried to worm out of a ticket ? Never. I have bitched about getting a ticket, sure. But have never blamed others for my actions. Lets don't digress from the original question. Are yall saying it is alright for some people to break the law. Hell, I'm so poor I can't aford bait. Where does that leave me?
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I'll respectfully bow out of this thread. To each his own. I have little respect for those that think they are above the law. I suppose that is a character flaw I can work on this new year.
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I would go to his house and if he had nothing to eat I would let it slide. Some people are very poor, not due to laziness but due to demographics and culture.
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I'll respectfully bow out of this thread. To each his own. I have little respect for those that think they are above the law. I suppose that is a character flaw I can work on this new year. Lack of character would be taking an old man thats trying to feed his family and confiscating his gun and truck and giving him time in jail because he cant pay the fines you put on him. Character would be "hey buddy Im going to let it slide this time but dont let me see this again". Officers discretion.
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I'll respectfully bow out of this thread. To each his own. I have little respect for those that think they are above the law. I suppose that is a character flaw I can work on this new year. Lack of character would be taking an old man thats trying to feed his family and confiscating his gun and truck and giving him time in jail because he cant pay the fines you put on him. Character would be "hey buddy Im going to let it slide this time but dont let me see this again". Officers discretion. I am with Reb, all of you are saying basically that you don't think that it is a big deal because you view it as a minor law. I have a lot of clients that rob banks or stores because their families are hungry and they have no money. Where do you draw the line?? What if the old man robbed the gas station? Also, trying to get out of a ticket doesn't mean that you are not guilty and didn't deserve it.
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Thats exactly why the LEO has to be able to use some discretion. If the old guy is holding up the gas station theres a good chance somebody is going to get hurt.
I kinda figure most people holding up places at gun point are doing it because they need money not just for the fun of it.
Try to get out of a ticket is simply asking the LEO to use his discretion. Ive never known of anyone that got a speeding ticket that was not speeding.
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I think the old man should be a little more discreet and not get caught in the first place.
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Its called officer discretion! Officers are hired to enforce laws. Legislators are hired to write laws. Officers are hired to enforce the laws like you said but there is officer discretion. Its no different than a judge handing down a ruling? Judges do not write laws but they instead use discretion just as an officer must use it. Its not always seeing the bad in everyone yes they are breaking a law but its about giving everyone a fair chance. If LEO's were all the time an a$$ and never used discretion then how would the public react? The public would automatically say "well all of those officers are a$$es they never help anyone no matter the circumstances. Its not necessarily picking and choosing when and where to enforce the laws its realizing who could use some help not putting them even father down than they already are. Just my 2 cents.
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let him slide ,,, says i .
some times common sense has got to be used .
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Its called officer discretion! Officers are hired to enforce laws. Legislators are hired to write laws. Officers are hired to enforce the laws like you said but there is officer discretion. Its no different than a judge handing down a ruling? Judges do not write laws but they instead use discretion just as an officer must use it. Its not always seeing the bad in everyone yes they are breaking a law but its about giving everyone a fair chance. If LEO's were all the time an a$$ and never used discretion then how would the public react? The public would automatically say "well all of those officers are a$$es they never help anyone no matter the circumstances. Its not necessarily picking and choosing when and where to enforce the laws its realizing who could use some help not putting them even father down than they already are. Just my 2 cents. Judges use discretion in sentencing someone, but not in guilt. If the judge heard this case and the man offered an excuse for doing it, then the judge is going to find him guilty every time. he may not give him much of a punishment, but he is going to be guilty.
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i dont see any thing wrong wit shooting one out of your garden at nite, its the sob that rides the roads shooting one out of other peoples yards and gardens at nite that need prosecuting
QDM my a$$!!!!!!!
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