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We have totally gotten off baiting but I have a question I've wandered about: IN CERTAIN AREAS of Alabama is it feasible that with no hunter kills, could the coyote actual hold deer numbers even or maybe decrease them? I feel that is the case where I live but have no facts.
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I miss having the Deer Management Assistance Program (DMP). It had its challenges but overall was an excellent program and put more control in the hands of the local biologist. Hunt clubs dropped out as antlerless deer limits were expanded. Would be nice to see that program return. How long were you in the area you retired from? You probably remember better than I do the DMAP farm from our area in about 1980. I mentioned it a few days ago on here. It was next to Gray Rocks. I worked at Montgomery HQ and lived in Prattville. Am very familiar with Gray Rock and neighboring land. Did you lease the Joshua's Peace property? Rick Claybrook was supervising wildlife biologist for that district at that time.
Last edited by WildlifeBiologist; 04/29/18 03:32 PM.
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I miss having the Deer Management Assistance Program (DMP). It had its challenges but overall was an excellent program and put more control in the hands of the local biologist. Hunt clubs dropped out as antlerless deer limits were expanded. Would be nice to see that program return. How long were you in the area you retired from? You probably remember better than I do the DMAP farm from our area in about 1980. I mentioned it a few days ago on here. It was next to Gray Rocks. I worked at Montgomery HQ and lived in Prattville. Am very familiar with Gray Rock and neighboring land. Did you lease the Joshua's Peace property? Rick Claybrook was supervising wildlife biologist for that district at that time. No, I was referring to Milton Johnson's property. His son started the DMAP program on it about 1980. Gray Rocks has since bought a big section of that Johnson property. I was friends with the son. I dont remember who leased the Peace place though when Mac Lawliss bought his land there he leased it I guess until his death. I know the ones who have it now. Been meaning to get there to get some sharks teeth before those days are gone. The biologist from the Johnson property as I remember was killed in a car wreck. Maybe in Bear Creek but my mind don't remember well.
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Yep. Some of the Johnson family attended First Baptist Prattville when we attended there. So did the Gray Rock cattle manager at that time, although I don't recall his name.
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Yep. Some of the Johnson family attended First Baptist Prattville when we attended there. So did the Gray Rock cattle manager at that time, although I don't recall his name. Winford Palmer. It's gone mostly to deer hunting now and his son, Mike Palmer, is the biologist over it now. Believe that is right but Gobbler on here would know more. And that brings us back to the coyotes. Gray Rocks is the only property South of Hwy 14 from Prattville to Dallas Co. That I would get out of the bed in the morning to hunt for deer. That's all river land, I live there, own land there, I generally don't waste my time. Lots of farms. Fields with heads of woods and easy hunting for coyotes Now, North of 14 has made great strides for the most part. Lots of timber land and cutovers and harder hunting for coyotes.
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