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So he is saying that most senators in the committee did not want it but the committee chairman - Tom Whatley - did a voice vote and approved it anyway?
The committees typically aren't big. Anyone on them saying "NO" to a vote could be easily heard. If the majority in a 7-person committee voted "NO" then unless the chairman is deaf, stupid or literally lied and certified (or whatever's done) a vote to get it to the Senate floor then there's some shady sh*t going on.
If what Chambliss is asserting is true then this bill being on the Senate floor is bogus.
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I emailed him back this afternoon and thanked him for his response and also stated that I thought that I read that the bill was considered favorable in the Senate Committee. This was his response back.
"That’s the rub - the overwhelming majority there was against it. It was the same Committee and the same Senators were there, but the Chair on a voice vote said the majority was in favor. That was clearly not the case." Thanks for taking the time and effort to contact him, follow up and to keep us informed.
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So he is saying that most senators in the committee did not want it but the committee chairman - Tom Whatley - did a voice vote and approved it anyway?
The committees typically aren't big. Anyone on them saying "NO" to a vote could be easily heard. If the majority in a 7-person committee voted "NO" then unless the chairman is deaf, stupid or literally lied and certified (or whatever's done) a vote to get it to the Senate floor then there's some shady sh*t going on.
If what Chambliss is asserting is true then this bill being on the Senate floor is bogus.
I don’t think Whatley would have pulled that move, but I could be wrong.
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Committee Vote is a matter of Record.
The man is lying; plain and simple.
Maybe he is stupid and does not realize that the Public not only has access to the info....but can even listen in on their idiotic ramblings and filibusters.
The days of coming back from Montgomery and spinning yarns about how hard of a battle they fought over Issues to their unknowing Constituents are over.
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I received this email from Senator Chambliss in reference to HB 21 today after I emailed several senators urging them to bring this to a vote. I thought the bill was favorable in the Senate Committee...
"I received a lot of input from both sides of this issue when this bill first came up two years ago. I weighed all of the information received and have opposed this bill since that time. The bill has failed on the Senate floor twice.
The bill failed in Senate Committee again this session by a 3-8 vote several weeks ago. The following week, the bill was on the agenda again at the very end of a 12 bill agenda. The chair came in and “voice-voted” the entire agenda and said that it was approved over the clear voices of the majority.
This is not right. It is anti-republic. It is clearly un-American! This underhanded tactic grew the opposition to the bill.
Obviously, this is not what you want to hear… but you deserve to know the details of what has gone on."
I'd email him right back and thank him for his response. Then I'd say, "as my senator, I feel it is important to know where you stand on issues and why. Please explain to me what information you received and what caused to to oppose this bill for the last 2 years, while approving the supplemental feeding bill at the same time." Chabliss is a CLOWN, plain and simple Its amazing what getting elected to the Legislature will do to a person. My Senator is Gerald Allen, I actually had him as a PE teacher 40 years ago. He was a great guy then and I can see how he was elected. He gets to that “Cesspool” in Montgomery and becomes a total idiot. There is something about the capital building that turns ordinary people into total morons, a-holes and untouchables. This path this baiting bill has taken is par for the course for these nimrods. Listen to the senate on any given item and the circus will be in full swing.
Lone Watie: I'm glad you stopped me when you did. I might have killed her
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Typical politician double talk BS. Mix a few big words with a few lies and feed it to the common man, they won't understand. Truth is they threatened to filibuster and nobody wanted to listen to their crap.
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GO NOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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10-4. Thanks. I hope we know soon. I gotta get money for either feeders and corn or seed, fertilizer and lime.
GO NOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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10-4. Thanks. I hope we know soon. I gotta get money for either feeders and corn or seed, fertilizer and lime. So what does the bill have to do with putting corn out? 
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If he is convinced that the Senate was opposed to the bill why did they threaten the filibuster? They should have just let it go to a floor vote and be done with it. He is a liar.
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If he is convinced that the Senate was opposed to the bill why did they threaten the filibuster? They should have just let it go to a floor vote and be done with it. He is a liar. Makes me wonder if there was shady chit going on in Committee and it was "approved" to get on to the Senate floor, and then once those committee members opposed to it began talking to other senators the threats of filibuster came out. This whole bill smells like an Alabama chicken farm in July.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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About to force a Vote now.
Sanford tried his best to filibuster.......did not work.
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"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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A vote should be forced if for nothing else to know where they stand. Too much shady crap going on. This is every day politics in Alabama.
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This is so sad to see. No wonder our state and country is in such terrible shape. These people are fuc*ing idiots.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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SENATOR ALLEGATION -- DCNR "over aggressive" game warden arrested an 18-year-old and took him to jail because he was 92 yards away from bait. Said he was handcuffed and taken to jail.
I challenge anyone from the DCNR to refute this on here or clarify it.
Last edited by Clem; 03/28/18 12:22 PM.
"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Anyone know who this Foghorn Leghorn idiot is talking at the mic right now?
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"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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Voting on cloture petition.
Bill is "carried over." Still not done yet.
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"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter
"Bible says you shouldn't put sugar in your cornbread." Dustin, 2013
"Best I can figure 97.365% of the general public is a paint chip eating, mouth breathing, certified dumbass." BCLC, 2020
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20 - 8 Vote for Cloture.
If the actual Vote mimics this....and, it will.....it will pass easily.
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