Aldeer.com Forums Alabama Deer Talk Serious Deer Talk Forum Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill)

If I hunted a piece of property and was on a power line facing due east, the property immediately to my back or due west is not mine. My neighbor decides to put a feeder 110 yds from the property line. The property isn’t mine to hunt, I cant see he has a feeder. I’m not even facing that property. I dont believe in “baiting”, I try to follow all hunting laws. Nobody is hunting the property behind me on this day, the feeder goes off just as a GW walks up and checks me and ask about the feeder. I dont even know it is there. My question is this: If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?

My point, jawbone, was that if everything else in my list is deemed legal, there is no common sense to the fact that using 'corn' as an attractant should be illegal, whether 2 miles away and hidden in a hollow log, or on the ground directly under your tripod or lock-on.

I agree with you jaw, btw. This is straight from the regs book, the 'area' definition:

"as it applies to the hunting of deer and feral swine, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that any bait or feed located beyond 100 yards from the hunter and not within the line of sight of the hunter ((obstructed by natural vegetation, or naturally occurring terrain features)) is not a lure, attraction, or enticement to, on, or over the area where the hunter is attempting to kill or take the deer or feral swine."

I've never liked this rule, explanation, or trap, or whatever it is. If I'm reading this correctly (and please correct me if I'm wrong) then a court would, via the rebuttable presumption clause, assume that anything 100 yards away and out of sight is NOT deemed a lure, attraction, or enticement, unless a man wearing green pants convinces the court otherwise. Well, anyone who has any prior knowledge about what corn in the woods does to birds, squirrels, deer, hogs, etc is going to know that it greatly affects wildlife movement... that's why we use it in front of our game cams. Most anything that eats a grain like that is going to flock to the area. So, a bowhunter overlooking a trail that leads to corn 400 yards away and two hills over, technically could be ticketed, and the person wearing the green pants could argue that you were hunting by aid of bait. Maybe a court would agree, or maybe they wouldn't? I guess it depends on how well you know the judge in your county.

CALD!....

I would much rather have my neighbor bait deer than have them high fence their property. I can compete with them on the baiting.

So another week and no vote, not looking good.

Never happen!

It will be voted on next week, Per Cam Ward in an email from him yesterday. FYI, he is in favor of the bill.

The questions that will be raised, presented, argued and unanswered are numerous and these legislative dickwads don't have a clue or care about it.

The reigns of Charles Kelly and Corky Pugh were not perfect and both could be dictatorial jackwagons. But we had fewer regulations and laws, more overall hunter satisfaction and less of this completely idiotic bullshittery and distrust going on like we've had in the last 10-15 years.

But, yeah, we're doing "progress." Thank God for that.

Hahaha you have a way with sharing words (and truth), my friend.

"The reigns of Charles Kelly and Corky Pugh were not perfect and both could be dictatorial jackwagons. But we had fewer regulations and laws, more overall hunter satisfaction and less of this completely idiotic bullshittery and distrust going on like we've had in the last 10-15 years."

Hammer meet nail. That is it in a nutshell. End of story.

The Senate is not in session today, will be back in session on 3-20-2018 at 2:00 PM.

Sums it up very well!

The thing about any deer hunting from a tree stand is that there is very little skill involved no matter what kind of food source or travel route you are watching. That's especially true if someone else placed the stand; all.it is then is a test of marksmanship, and maybe the ability to stay awake. Though I gotta admit I have been surprised many times at grown men who can't hit a doe standing broadside 75 yards away. So whether watching a green field is somehow better than watching a corn pile is kinda senseless to me. Neither one of them make you a hunter.

Slip up on him and shoot him in his bed if you wanna talk woodsmanship skills. Or walk him up in cutover and shoot him running off if you wanna test your shooting.

Waiting for a deer from a tree stand is just boredom.

Emailed my senator this afternoon hopefully I will get a response

I’m still waiting on mine. Don’t know if he will respond or not

From the late 1970's til 3 years ago I hunted public land. Does that make me a public land hunter? Or, maybe that gives me a perspective to see both sides of the public land and private land hunting fence. My point is the private land hunters have better hunting opportunities, be it better land, less competition, less pressure, better control of what happens on the property than the public land hunter and yet that is not good enough, easy enough, etc, etc, etc. No need to go any further, it's all about "fun" (fun meaning got to see and kill a deer every time one goes and spends their precious time in the field).

If this passes, it will create a nightmare for large hunting clubs. "That's my corn pile, You know I was feeding that spot, etc.". We as hunters have to be very careful not to let this divide us. We already have enough going against us with animal rights groups and the image of gun owners being created by the media. The more I watch this thread, the more I despise some of our politicians. Dang it, poop or get off the pot!

No different than "I put that stand there you can't hunt it" hunting club drama.

Fellas, the Law will not do ANYTHING except remove a current restriction if it passes.

PEOPLE are the problem.

If you are a person........think about that for a little while.