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A pile of corn is an attractant (but is illegal to hunt over unless you are at least 100 yards away and its out of sight)
Once again, 100 yards and out of sight DOES NOT maker corn legal to hunt over. If you put corn out in order to attract game and hunt that game, it is baiting and as of today, baiting is still illegal. All the 100 yards and out of sight decree did is put another element of the crime a GW has to prove, i.e. he has to show beyond a reasonable doubt that the deer you were hunting were attracted to the corn. This is why I am so adamant that it should be legal or illegal, period, No stipulations to keep confusing people.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Hang on, abolt - if he's not bathing then he's more akin to Native Americans and their stick bows, thus more of a "real hunter." Right?  Well Clem, that's an excellent point. I guess he would be, just as long as he is puffing on the "peace pipe" on a regular basis and masking that stink with the smell of SMOKE. 
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I'm a shower type of guy myself...... 
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Hang on, abolt - if he's not bathing then he's more akin to Native Americans and their stick bows, thus more of a "real hunter." Right? Well Clem, that's an excellent point. I guess he would be, just as long as he is puffing on the "peace pipe" on a regular basis and masking that stink with the smell of SMOKE. Smoke, body stink - dammit, Todd's going to be THE ULTIMATE HUNTER!!!! In his shooting house with a heater, full camo, Ozonics and crossbow overlooking a food plot with a drip bottle of synthetic "urine" nearby, of course.
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A pile of corn is an attractant (but is illegal to hunt over unless you are at least 100 yards away and its out of sight)
Once again, 100 yards and out of sight DOES NOT maker corn legal to hunt over. If you put corn out in order to attract game, it is baiting and as of today, baiting is still illegal. All the 100 yards and out of sight decree did is put another element of the crime a GW has to prove, i.e. he has to show beyond a reasonable doubt that the deer you were hunting were attracted to the corn. This is why I am so adamant that it should be legal or illegal, period, No stipulations to keep confusing people. You sir are 100% correct. I've said the same thing til I was blue in the face on here and everyone says, no if it's 100 yds and out of sight it's legal. According to the law, if it is influencing deer movement to make them easier for you to kill, it is considered baiting and is still illegal in AL whether it is 100 - 200 - or 300 yards away. It should either be legal to have supplemental feed/bait out during the season or it should not. Black and white. No middle ground. I personally dont care either way. If it is illegal, then the fines need to be astronomical and the GWs need to enforce the hell out of it. If it is legal, they can spend all that extra time chasing night hunters and poachers.
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[quote=CNC]Where is written in stone about what hunting has to be?? ....{CNC]
Good post and I think you are spot on! There is A LOT of hypocrisy between hunters judging how another person hunts. Hunting is supposed to be fun and that is defined differently by everybody. Actually, it was not a good post and was not "spot on." It was silly nonsense for this reason: it has always for generations until now been etched in stone that hunting had to be based on the principle of FAIR CHASE, hence bating via corn piles (deer) and crop seeds like wheat (birds) were banned. The point being to preserve the hunting tradition with a sense of honor and honor code based on fair chase, and to also promote woodsmenship skills. Let me guess, your eyes are brown... No, they are not, but you are incredibly stupid and immature. I expected a better response than a 3rd grade insult. I set the bar low for you to jump over and you tripped on it. I have just one more question, "Were you born stupid or is this a recent development?"
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^^^^^^^^ WHYYYYYY cant everyone just get along? All this animosity is making me very uncomfortable and I am starting to feel upset and "triggered". I think I just need to retire to my safe space and practice my coloring while looking at puppy pictures.
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A pile of corn is an attractant (but is illegal to hunt over unless you are at least 100 yards away and its out of sight)
Once again, 100 yards and out of sight DOES NOT maker corn legal to hunt over. If you put corn out in order to attract game, it is baiting and as of today, baiting is still illegal. All the 100 yards and out of sight decree did is put another element of the crime a GW has to prove, i.e. he has to show beyond a reasonable doubt that the deer you were hunting were attracted to the corn. This is why I am so adamant that it should be legal or illegal, period, No stipulations to keep confusing people. You sir are 100% correct. I've said the same thing til I was blue in the face on here and everyone says, no if it's 100 yds and out of sight it's legal. According to the law, if it is influencing deer movement to make them easier for you to kill, it is considered baiting and is still illegal in AL whether it is 100 - 200 - or 300 yards away. It should either be legal to have supplemental feed/bait out during the season or it should not. Black and white. No middle ground. I personally dont care either way. If it is illegal, then the fines need to be astronomical and the GWs need to enforce the hell out of it. If it is legal, they can spend all that extra time chasing night hunters and poachers. Our District Judge sees it this way also and has explained it to more than a couple of people, the hard way, that didn't take the time to learn the difference between baiting and supplemental feeding.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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A pile of corn is an attractant (but is illegal to hunt over unless you are at least 100 yards away and its out of sight)
Once again, 100 yards and out of sight DOES NOT maker corn legal to hunt over. If you put corn out in order to attract game and hunt that game, it is baiting and as of today, baiting is still illegal. All the 100 yards and out of sight decree did is put another element of the crime a GW has to prove, i.e. he has to show beyond a reasonable doubt that the deer you were hunting were attracted to the corn. This is why I am so adamant that it should be legal or illegal, period, No stipulations to keep confusing people. And how can he prove that beyond a reasonable doubt?
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Not to interrupt a good argument but Todd, I would suggest that while "bathing" isnt the most important thing in your life, you might want to grab a bar of soap and hit the creek occasionally. Your deer sightings will probably go up regardless of whether you're hunting over corn, greenfields, acorns or even in the "big pen".  LOL! Damn auto correct. That is funny. Fixed it.
The best index to a person’s character is (a) how he treats people who can’t do him any good, and (b) how he treats people who can’t fight back.
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Since you consider food plots to be baiting and since hunting over bait is the most important
thing in your life, then you should just plant a food plot so you can hunt over "bait."
Problem solved. Hold on while I run this through the universal translator. Let's see. Setting: Bulls##t to English Entering the text. Hit translate button. Here it comes now. Translation reads: "I still can't answer the f###ing question".
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The best index to a person’s character is (a) how he treats people who can’t do him any good, and (b) how he treats people who can’t fight back.
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I emailed my senator as well Me too! For those in favor of this bill, I encourage you to take a few minutes and do the same.
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A pile of corn is an attractant (but is illegal to hunt over unless you are at least 100 yards away and its out of sight)
Once again, 100 yards and out of sight DOES NOT maker corn legal to hunt over. If you put corn out in order to attract game and hunt that game, it is baiting and as of today, baiting is still illegal. All the 100 yards and out of sight decree did is put another element of the crime a GW has to prove, i.e. he has to show beyond a reasonable doubt that the deer you were hunting were attracted to the corn. This is why I am so adamant that it should be legal or illegal, period, No stipulations to keep confusing people. And how can he prove that beyond a reasonable doubt? Common sense I guess.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Spoke with Cam Ward today by email and he said that he was in support of the bill. I asked when they would vote on it and he said "they were only voting on senate bills right now in the senate but next week will offer a good chance for passage." Let us know if any of you hear back from your senators, it will be interesting to see what they say about it. Best informative response to the big question most everybody has had on here. ' And somebody said that they were arguing about service cats.
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A pile of corn is an attractant (but is illegal to hunt over unless you are at least 100 yards away and its out of sight)
Once again, 100 yards and out of sight DOES NOT maker corn legal to hunt over. If you put corn out in order to attract game and hunt that game, it is baiting and as of today, baiting is still illegal. All the 100 yards and out of sight decree did is put another element of the crime a GW has to prove, i.e. he has to show beyond a reasonable doubt that the deer you were hunting were attracted to the corn. This is why I am so adamant that it should be legal or illegal, period, No stipulations to keep confusing people. And how can he prove that beyond a reasonable doubt? Common sense I guess. You know when they passed this 100yard rule several years ago, I called the game and fish headquarters in enterprise, al and spoke to lieutenant, can't remember his last name, but I gave him several examples of hunting situations and he said it was legal. Except one I mentioned if I was hunting say a clear cut and in the middle of the clear cut was a patch of trees and I had the feeder behind it and it was over 100 yds and out of sight, he said I would get ticketed. Due to me being able to see all around the feeder, but if I put a feeder over a 100yds and out of sight down a powerline, lane,or road that was ok. Now I'm not saying y'all are wrong, just what the man that strokes the tickets in my area said to me. I agree though, they need to make it legal or illegal.
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Nothing back from my senator yet....
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Nothing back from my senator yet.... Me either. He must be rallying the troops like I told him to
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I instant messaged mine. Let's see if that does anything.
His neck is red as Alabama clay
Now he's goin' home this time to stay
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A pile of corn is an attractant (but is illegal to hunt over unless you are at least 100 yards away and its out of sight)
Once again, 100 yards and out of sight DOES NOT maker corn legal to hunt over. If you put corn out in order to attract game and hunt that game, it is baiting and as of today, baiting is still illegal. All the 100 yards and out of sight decree did is put another element of the crime a GW has to prove, i.e. he has to show beyond a reasonable doubt that the deer you were hunting were attracted to the corn. This is why I am so adamant that it should be legal or illegal, period, No stipulations to keep confusing people. And how can he prove that beyond a reasonable doubt? Common sense I guess. So if the deer’s nose is pointed away from the feeder that’s 400’ away and out of sight on the backside of a hill top it’s a good shoot? But if the deer’s nose is pointed at the feeder it’s a dirty shoot? Common sense flew out the door long ago when it comes to this law. Let’s all understand the purpose of the 100 yards away law is to benefit high fence operators that contribute to political campaigns. It’s so the free range big pen deer can have big antlers too. “Fair Chase” don’t make me laugh. People ridding around in $20k toys towed to the woods behind $80k trucks onto $5k+ annually strict QDMA clubs lost that bully pulpit once the trail cam count got beyond 20. Don’t get me wrong if I could afford it I would fox Hunt mounted on a fine steed I straddled after stepping 3 steps from a Rolls Royce with the umbrella in the door and the stocked liquor chest in the boot. But I certainly hope I would be able to not kid myself about fair chase. We are merely consumers of hunting gear designed to defeat natural defenses of the animals we hunt. But I absolutely agree make it cut and dry. Feeder with feed between 15 Oct and last day of turkey season equal bad or call a distance and any beyond that is ok or back up the truck and dump it over top of your shooting house is cool. Just take the judgement or lack there of out it.
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